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QWAK,The DUCK NEST is OFF GRID at the moment!:yes::15_1_70v: We got a bad ICE STORM and power has been down about 4 hours.:36_1_25::favorites21:

I should have prepared better:yes::thinkey: The main HD power cord I pland to use got wet and the wet in the 4 jack box kept triping the GFI:36_1_30: on the generator.:favorites21: had to switch a bunch of cords around:wink:

Generator died after 15 min.:dontknow: restarted and was ok don't know why it stoped it just did. :dontknow:

COLD rain and ICE but the DUCK pond is WARM so will ponder and watch on the TV:hahaha: as they try to restore power to about 80,000 who currently have no power and they expect it to get worse as the ice acumulates and trees fall and power lines and poles snap like twigs!:36_1_25:

Could have been better prepared and will be next time:yes: but all in all not a bad test!:yes::s1::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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QWAK,Can't believe IT!:452: The UPS guy just delivered a package!!:yes: He walked it up my drive way!! Could not get the truck up but he could walk! WOW I am IMPRESSED!:yes::23_28_100s::thumbs up:congrats:

I cut him some slack a year or two back when he hit the Tahoe,just a tap, NO big deal, but some people go ape over such things.:yes: Then I gave him a silver coin for a nothing day,I hade been telling him about buying physical SILVER -- he has walked up packages since then but THIS was WAY over the top!!!:shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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What kind of generator do you run, Duck?

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Good luck.

Some have suggested that a great infrastructure project would be to start putting all those utility lines underground. It would save money on repairs during storms; and, if nothing else, it would be a great "make work" project for the administration.

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Good drill, Duck Egg!

Irons out the snags!

Love to Cat-rina from the feline gang here.:sleepy13:

Stay boiled.:23_1_22:

Flap Max

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Duck, I hope the TV isnt too close ot the Duck pond..I would hate for you to turn into duck soup..:bear_tongue:

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No doubt. I have been prepping non stop for months now. It looks like my hard work will start paying dividends tonight. The authorities are calling for a class 3 emergency here in Northern Ky and Ohio.

We are expecting up to an inch of ice on top of 6 to 8 inches of snow.

I have the diesel Gen Set fueled and ready . Both of my kerosene heaters are fueled and ready to go. Flashlights and candles in every room. Hundreds of pounds of canned food to go along with lots of stored rice .

50 Gallons of diesel out in the shed and 50 gallons of kerosene.

This is the best thing that could have happened to me right now. It is a sobering reminder that not only am I not done prepping, i am just getting started.

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Good luck and prayers to you guys. Hope it does not end up like Quebec a few years ago. Don't forget to put antifreeze in your toilet and turn off the water if it comes to it.

God bless.

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QWAK,The power went out at 8:45am this morning :yes: came back on at 3:15 pm for 45 min. then out agen.:favorites21:

I took a nap with the cat and the dog:yes: when it went off in case they got it back on agen quickly (could happen:wink:) 4:45pm woke up and still no power so started the generator agen and switched all the power cords back to run off the generator.

The local TV station is runing on generator and flash lights!:yes: TV wether man says this is the worst ICE STORM in Arkansas history!

Fayetteville Arkansas is requesting DISASTER AERIA status,the govenor wants the whole state declared a disaster aeria!:yes:

There is about 1/2" of ICE on every thing and it is still coming down,geting colder and will switch over to heavy wet snow after 8 pm -- it is now 5:38 pm. Going to get a lot worse!

It looks INCREDABLE like a CRISTAL REALITY every thing coated with ice will be MAGNIFICENT to see when the sun comes out!:shine:

Avalon,No TV by the hot tub -- perhaps I can buy a 50" cheep USED later this year after I finish the project -- that is the tenitive plan any way.:wink:

Max,CAT-TRENA is geting spoiled -- she had milk and summer sauge then took a nap ignoring the storm as long as she is dry and warm, smart cat!:yes::shine:

Jimfrancisco, I bought a DR. Power mower and the Generator accesory -- very happy with both so far!:yes: I also bought the chipper accesory and looks like I will get to TEST that TOO after the ice melts!:yes::111::4_1_72:

A lot of people in the dark and cold this evening and even the tow trucks are sliding in to ditches:yes:an ICE STORM makes it instent 1800s if you don't have a generator,this is the first time I have had a generator -- MUCH nicer :yes: still an ICE STORM is a GREAT ADVENTURE -- every one should experience an ICE STORM! When the sun comes out it is MAGNIFICENT!!!:shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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starting to look interestiing

yellow - rain

pink - icy

blue - snow

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Oh yeah duck, I'm in SE Oh. I just stepped outside.
Freezing rain/sleet/snow.
Hmmm...what else Tornados??, ahh maybe later.
Good luck to those folks in RossL rainbow weather map.

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QWAK,I just refilled the generator (knew I should have bought that 5 gal tank:yes:)

The sound of breaking trees and tree limbs is SPOOKEY! It is poping like the 4th of july with NO FIRE WOORKS just total blackness not even the glow over the horison from the city and all the lights -- they got NO POWER!:452::signs14:

It will be days befor they got power agen they say on TV!:yes:

HUGE TREES either pulled over or split in two right down to the ground,going to be fire wood for years to come!!:yes:

This should be a real wake up call to a lot of people --- GET PREPARED it will just get harder and more frequent theas "EMERGENCIES"!:yes::shine:

We are geting sleet now but they say wet snow coming then much colder so it all freezes SOLID!:favorites21:

We are having an ADVENTURE :yes::111::4_1_72:kind of FUN if you can chose to see it THAT way.:wink::shine:

I have done lots of ice storms befor this is the bigist MOST FUN one so far!:yes::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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you better make sure you have enough fuel......when the trees start snapping and blocking the roads...its hard to get to fuel....also...gas stations will be out of power and wont take plastic money...

be prepared get ahead of the crowd

I went through 10days without power last year in southwest missouri from ice storms i know the drill

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QWAK,TTAZZMAN,Got 5 -5gal jerricans from last year treated with stable. Needs to be used and restocked.

I have plans for a small FUEL DUMP have a large home heating oil tank up on legs and 4 or 5 55gal alchahol barrels. just takes time to build every thing.:wink:

Back up heat is propane tanks,just got them refilled or as many as they would allow. Said new LAW(?) no more than 90 lb each purchase!

Got to buy a big tanK but local dealers only want to rent the big tanks -- I want to OWN my tanks!:yes:

This will be my 20th year upon the mountain in winter -- always an ADVENTURE:yes: one kind or another:thinkey::yes::shine:

Kind of fun being able to SHARE this adventure.:shine:

the DUCK

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I'm in Wisconsin. I got a little 3 day unscheduled vacation at work (if you know what I mean) and with that hooked up to a weekend I was going to make a run straight south to see what warm weather is like again. Maybe as far as Kentucky. Guess I better rethink this? :confused_m:

We seem to be able to handle ice and snow up here. Do you guys have leaves on the trees now that the ice accumulates on? Good luck down there!

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QWAK,LowDow,No leaves on the trees:452: just thick ICE!

The pine trees are FLAT:yes: they just lay over or break off from the ice!

I have seen ice up north,I am from chicago but down here wnen the conditions are right the ICE just coats every thing and keeps building till somthing breaks!:yes:

It realy is SPECTACULAR when the sun comes out - like another WORLD!:yes::shine:

the DUCK

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Duck, sel your genny while the market is high and buy an Onan - it'll last forever, and you will always be able to buy parts. CCK for a petrol one. It'll run happily on 2-stroke mix if that is all you have.

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QWAK,Jimfrancisco,I havent even payed for it yet:452: or even broken it in,this is the first time I have used it and I am happy with its preformance.:yes:

The generator plugs in to a 15 hp kowasaki motor that is self propelled so it can WALK ware ever I want it.

The mowing deck on the same engen takes down 12' tall tree 3" in diamiter -- EATS THEM and I have not even mouted the HD BLADE YET!:452:

So far I am a happy camper!:yippee::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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How far south do you have to go right now to get to some warm weather?

:36_1_63:......................................... ......................................:shine:

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That's handy, a generator that is self-propelled - it takes 4 people to comfortably lift an Onan CCK, let alone move it!

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QWAK,The EQUATOR perhaps Mexico would be enough! LOL

It is 15 digrees NOW and I just refilled the generator and got the fires in kitchen and bath relit.

They expect 23 digrees by lunch time,30 by evening and 34 high tomarrow!

About 1 inch of ice and an inch of snow on top that -- it is INCREDABLE out there!!

Fayetteville and Fort smith are shut down!!

the DUCK

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duck, how warm are you able to keep the house tempurture..

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QWAK,Avalon it is 60 in here now but warming up:yes: DUCK pond should be back up to 105 in an hour:wink::shine:

The areia is DEVISTATED and ware I am at up on the mountain always gets hit worst in ice storms -- they realy screwed up when they built that new I540 high way threw here,first place ICE on bridges acumulates!

I will get some of this on the cam corder than go solk for a wile.:s1:

A DUCK just has to have WARM WATER to properly PONDER!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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"I cut him some slack a year or two back when he hit the Tahoe" = Treat me good and I'll treat you better".

One of the better statements seen frequently on this site. Absolute Truth.

Stay Warm.

ST

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there's still ice from Nashville to Buffalo !! :36_1_25:

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QWAK,Thought I would evaluate some of my survival equipment for you.:thinkey:

Bought 6 emergency lights from Sportsmans guide,each light has battery back up, comes on when power goes off and has a remote switch and runs on 110 ,also has a 12 volt jack.:yes: GREAT IDEA!!!:shine: Unfortunately not one of them worked when I needed them to work,not even when pluged in to the generator!:452::36_1_30:

Got an LED lantern with crank generator, from same company --- did not work either!

Emergency LED lights, rechargable with flash light head or 16 LED work light -- not much light and batteries died real fast!

ALL from Sportsmans Guide,made in China and aparently bad /cheep rechargable batteries --- so they work good when NEW but NOT later when you NEED them to work!:36_1_30:

The war surplus stuff threw Sportsmans Guide is GREAT and cheep but the FLASHEY cool stuff that is MADE in CHINA is JUNK I waisted $$$ on is MY evaluation.:yes:

I think it would be a good idea:thinkey: if others also TESTED there equipment and posted evaluations:yes:

Just as a penny saved is a penny EARNED --- $$$$ waisted would be BETTER BURNED -- at least you could get WARM!:wink::yes:

HELP SAVE fellow GIMers --- "Don't let them BUY bad EQUIPMENT" -- that alone could SAVE there LIVES!:yes:

Bad equipment you CAN'T trust can KILL YOU, when you MUST trust that it will work PROPERLY!:yes: :shine:

the DUCK

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Do hope all GIMers in the effected areas are safe and warm. I have just read that there are 600,000 customers without power and that it is anticipated that it will be 'days' before it is restored. Also 19 people have been killed in total, deaths is various different states.

Glad the new generator is still holding up Duck.

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QWAK,Max,Just checked phone is dead,no big suprise realy:wink::111:

With the generator the sat dishes work fine for the TV and puter but roof top antennas don't or have been badly damaged every ware!:yes:

Just walked around out side with cam corder -- going to take some effort just to be able to clear the tree limbs from the drive way to the road!:yes:

It is 17 out side,64 inside and 104 in the DUCK POND,with 62 in the pond room,we are doing GREAT!:yes::shine: Mostly just an inconvience and of corse another FUN ADVENTURE for ME!:yes::111::4_1_72:

In years passed I just had flash lights and the stove --- way more FUN this way with a GENERATOR!:yes::shine:

Shure glad I gave that EMERGENCY pack to the lady that delivers the MAIL! Talked to her yesterday on the land line and she was planing to TRY and get out and DELIVER! Shure hope she did not even TRY! IF she does that milar blanket and heat pack could save HER life or some one else that is stranded!

the DUCK

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Glad the generator is such a success Duck.

I don't think much of those rechargable lanterns either. I bought one that was on sale at the local hardware shop and had to take it straight back, it would not even charge up at all.

I have a second rechargable one that seems OK, it also has a hand crank. But that is pretty pathetic, it takes a lot of cranking to do anything. Though I am by no means solely dependent on it. Personally I am very much in favour of oil lamps . . . and not cheap ones from China either. I have some of those and no matter what I do with them they smoke and flicker.

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QWAK,Max,I have another LED lantern that runs on 4 "D" batteries and it works quite well and has a REMOTE that realy works, so it is DIMABLE to concerve batteries,provides aeria light and it has a COOL push button remote!:yes: Have used it about 6 years now and works GREAT!:yes::s1:

It is silver and black and says "JEEP" on it. Made in CHINA, but this one realy works GOOD and has held up!

Got gas lanterns and oil lamps as alternet options too of corse.:wink:

The more OPTIONS you got -- the more managable the PROBLEMS -- even real BIG ONES!:yes::shine::111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

the DUCK ---- ( HE HE HE and they said I was CRAZY:confused_m: -- :wink:)

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I'm right in the middle of it1 Lost power around 7:45 AM and not back up yet. I'm running off back up power now. Spent all morning running extension cords all over the house. Got my furnace, refer, freezer, two computers, one TV and 2 cordless phones working, Coffee pot and microwave are optional. No hot water or any water except from rain water and our emergency supply of drinking water. Battery SW/AM/FM radio, scanner keeping track of emergencies in the area.

We got ice and now snowing about an inch an hour. Oh, our cook stove is LP gas as in the furnace. So all those preps are paying off for now, can't last like this for ever though, will need to make a gasoline run some time tomorrow if electric doesn't come back on.

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And they might have been right (not that there's anything wrong with crazy, mind you!).:confused_ma:

Glad to hear that things are working out for you during your power outage. We had a 10 day outage here in OH back in September that served as a good test of our preps. Luckily, we still had water and the ambient temps weren't that hateful.

For lighting, I had a Harbor Freight 110V powered mechanic's "trouble light" in the kitchen, a AA battery powered camping fluorescent lantern (Eveready brand, I think), and a bunch of baby clip-on LED lights that I, my wife & kids used. For $1.50 each, these proved to be VERY handy. See:

http://countycomm.com/ARES%20SOLED.htm

Don't forget to double-check the oil level in your generator engine from time to time.

STAY WARM!

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,,,global warming, here we come...:thumb.aspx:

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Didn't you hear? Global warming is what is the reason we are having colder winters. :111:

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Goberment kind of clear thinking :36_1_30:

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QWAK,12;39 pm -- Not so happy a camper no more!:452:

Generator ran out of gas at 11:06 -- noted time so I could estimate full tank run time under load.

12:25 back up but WITH problems!!

Some IDIOT at the factory did not have the right drive pully for the generator shaft and SUBSTITUTED one and just made up the DIFERENCE with a stack of SPLIT washers and a big FLAT washer over them!:36_1_25:

Pully was loose and wabbeling so bad I could not get the generator to start!!:452:

Spent an hour laying on the ground trying to get the pully off the shaft -- the key way is all chewed up also and loose,could not get the key way set screw to move -- they must have "LOCK TITED" IT and the shaft BOLT!:favorites21:

Got to get it running SOooooooooo Pushed the pully up about 3/4" on the generator shaft and WRAPED bailing wire under it as tight as I could!:thinkey::yes: Up and runing,a lot of vibration and the drive belt is not alined and rubing,but for NOW we still got power!

Any one who got one of thease with the FACTORY screw up is going to have BIG PROBLEMS like I did, I would EXPECT!

Could go down at any time and may not be able to fix it agen:dontknow: Should NOT have to!!:452:

Soon as the phone is working agen going to CALL the "DR Power Mower" people!:yes::s10::favorites21:

LIVES could have depended on that GENERATOR!!:yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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:111: I heard that rumor yesterday over the CB radio, Some trucker passin' through was telling all about it. I knew better than to argue with him just stayed silent and listened in. :15_1_70v:

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If they are going to go with a "WPA" 2.0 this should be the first thing they get started on....

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Looks like you got what we got last month. Good dry run; we don't do the generator thing, prefer quiet. Good luck all Gimmers, keep your peccar up as the Brits say.

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That is very bad Duck. Was it made in the USA?

Are your phone lines down, or is it just your type of phone? I couldn't really grasp what you were saying about the phone last night. (The wine, no doubt!:wink:)

Good luck. Max

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Drive carefully if you do have to go out tomorrow, Lt Dan.:36_1_63:

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Not that mighty Duck needs any advice, but in an actual emergency you wouldn't be abe to store enough fuel for the generator. You should be able to feed the ducklings and heat the duck pond without that fancy ee-lec-tricity, our town got it in 1946 so we know humans can do fine without it- as long as your life support systems do not depend upon it.:36_3_12:

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Won't help if the gas stations have no power. In our ice storm, there was no gas to be had until they got power back up.

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QWAK,It is my understanding that what they want is a SUPER CONDUCTOR GRID which would have little or no power lose!:thinkey:

That means SILVER POWER LINES that are SUPER COOLED so they have almost zero power loss in transmission!:yes:

It is do able but takes a lot of physical SILVER and an eficient way of cooling the power lines.

Aparently they have solved the problems :questionm:dontknow:

A SUPER CONDUCTOR power grid would be doubling the grid capacity with out any new power stations being built!:yes:

the DUCK

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QWAK,oldmansmith,I tried living 1800s stile for a wile,made buck skin cloaths and even heavy leather boots. Hawkins 50 cal and I was loaded for BEAR:wink::yes: I did the Jerimi Johnson thing and it was OK but I aint Robert Redford BUT in JUST the right LIGHT -- if you SQUINT and BLINK-- some people THINK -- HE -- looks just like ME! HE HE HE:111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:


My point is I try to take the good I can use and blend it with the OLD -- there is a lot of good NEW stuff but a lot more CHEEP JUNK STUFF so best to have a plan "B" and even "C" and "D" if you can!:yes:

As for advice :wink:I am always happy to hear good advive based on experience!:yes::shine:

the DUCK

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Natural Gas lines in the Gulf of Mexico are being drawn drawn down, here in Ship Shoal area we have been asked to step up gas production. As long as you can run the furnace blower you should be good with the generator, keep the Duck nest warm and good preping.


cajuncoin

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QWAK,CajunCoin,I heat with wood got self generating fans on top the wood stove.:s1:

Have back up propane heaters, a 25,000 BTU and 10,000 BTU runing off there own regulators and 30# tanks. Also a tankless propane water heater on its own tank and regulator to add hot water to hot tub/DUCK POND if the wood boiler is heating too slow.

Got 25 Gal of gas for the generator.

Should be good for about 5 days more or less "NORMAL":wink: if the generator holds up.:questionm:dontknow: If not I have done iCE STORMS with no power for 5 to 7 days in the passed -- a LESS FUN ADVENTURE!:yes::111::4_1_72:

It is 25 out side!

DUCK pond is nice and warm :wink: going to feed the two fires and go PONDER at 106 for a wile!:yes::shine::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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This is a perfect example of why it's NOT enough to just "own" a generator, stashing it away in the (unopened) factory box. It's important to know how it functions BEFORE you need it to run. Take it out of the box. Run it for a few hours (under load - electric space heaters work well). Drain the oil & refill it. Test run it every 1-3 months.

I presume you just got the thing, since you'd not even paid for it yet. For others "out there", TEST your generator before you need it.

My cheapie PepBoys 3500W generator ran pretty well for the 10 days we were without power back in September. The only hassles I had were due to my stupidity in adding a gallon or two of oil/gas mixture to the fuel tank (rather than just gasoline) several days into the outage. After removing the spark plug, wire scrubbing the fouling, draining the gas tank, refilling it with new fuel,... the sucker FINALLY started back up.

Have a spare spark plug. Don't try & use up old oddball fuel/oil mixtures in a gasoline-only engine just because it's "running so well."

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Glad you didn't take it wrong, Duck, I agree plans A, B and C are needed.

21 degrees here in the hills and the snow and sleet have changed to freezing rain...not again I hope. I do like power,:shine: even still I have dial up I can't watch Jeremiah.

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Stop typing QWAK in every frigging post!! And it is spelled Quack! MOFO

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QWAK,S_Goldberg,I reject conventional ,ARBITRARY rules and questionable CONCLUSIONS and prefer to make my OWN DECISIONS and do things MY WAY,a QWAK spelled some other way would be some one elses QWAK and NOT my QWAK --- it lets people know I am about to TALK :yes: As a DUCK I maintain my SOVERN RIGHTS to talk like a DUCK --- and this DUCK -- QWAKS!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Back on topic..
Lost power for about 8 hrs. and was ready to pull out the gen.
We have a lasagna of 2" of snow then 1/2" of ice and a topping 3" of snow.
Good luck folks

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We were out for 6 days during the December ice storm.... best of luck to you, keep your feathers dry!

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Your Duckness, I hope your gennie holds up longer than the nasty weather. Thanks for sharing your experience; a SHTF dry run usually reveals the weak links in our planning.

From your story about the UPS guy it sounds like you don't just talk like a duck, you walk like one too. Good for you.

Keep us posted, here's wishing you all the best.


Oh, and BTW;

QUAK!

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Phones.. we dont have a cell phone ,we have the standard cordless phones...they don't work in a power outage.
We have a 70s rotary dial phone that works because the phone co. has its own power source.

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QWAK,Camp Bassfish, "keep your feathers dry" -- :s1: too late for that -- been PONDERING:wink: little hard regulating the temp of the DUCK POND-- got up to 117 so had to find another extention cord to run the 1 HP bubble blower to cool the pond of!:yes:

The new boiler works great just have not got it zeroed in on adjusting the burn,too much bone dry wood and it gets very hot very fast!:yes: Cooked the thermostat the other day by turning a valve off -- inventing and prototypes are FUN:yes: I often descover how NOT to do things:yes::36_1_30: good to know -- but better to know BEFOR you did IT!:hahaha::yes::stupid::shot:

the DUCK

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QWAK,immanti,The funney part is the box the UPS guy delivered:hahaha: was a replacment for a cold weather survival kit that arived DAMAGED!:yes:

They gave me TWO as it was a two for one deal so next time he deliveres a package I am giving HIM one of them!:yes: IF any one needed and deserved a cold weather survival kit -- HE DOES!:111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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Talk about irony! :biggrin:


It sounds like something he'd really appreciate. And he'll have even more reason to brave the weather to get those packages to the nest, so in a way you're helping each other stay warm. Wise duck!

:bear_thumb:

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I just heard that some areas are going to be without power for at least 3 weeks. Heard any estimates where you are at?

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QWAK,immanti,This is the kit

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=462873

Comes in a ruberised vaccume sealed pouch. You can melt snow with body warmth in the pouch to activate the heater!:yes:A real deal actualy!:shine:

the DUCK

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Is your Computer running on the Generator power?

I ask because I had read that your need good power to run them--something to do with the right shaped sine wave--

Keep warm

E-A

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QWAK,electric-amish,It has been runing puter,sat dishes tv and frig and freezer and lights too just fine. :s1:

The loose pully on the generator shaft is not likely to last much longer but as long as it does IM on line and life is more or less NORMAL :wink: but then normal for ME is not every bodies NORMAL! :452::36_1_30::111:

It will most likely be Sat befor we get power back. It all depends on if things warm up so they can get the lines back up.

the DUCK

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just some thoughts from reading this thread and my experiences from ice storms..and Generators

i have found the easyest way to plug up a Gen is to buy a generator that has a 240 outlet...and wire up a double male ended heavy cord one end plugs into the Gen..the other plugs in at the clothes Dryer plug..(never hook or unhook this line while the gen is running)this will electify all the circuts in the house...you MUST pull the main breaker between the house and the meter so you dont kill a line man working on the line....and of course since a dryer outlet is 30amps you need to not run more than 30amps of usage...but this will heat up all the circuts saving all the cords etc...i also put a TEE in the fuel lines of all my generators with a cut off and i have a 6 gal bottom drawing boat fuel tank i hook up remote to the generator with a inline filter being remote this allows me to refuel the auxilary tank while the generator keeps running.

I have heard backfeeding like i describe with the double male ended cord is ILLEGAL but it does work great and is cheap

on the flywheel thing ..i would expect the bearings will be out of the Gen engine when you are done with it so you might need to have it looked over closely and repaired or replaced

to the one needing to make a fuel run.....do it quick....around here 90% of the gas stations were closed due to lack of power ...the ones running on a Gen set were way backed up and only took cash

GOLDDUCK are you sure that duckpond is 104deg it takes a lotta power to keep those ponds warm (is it gas?)


hope this helps someone

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That IS a good deal. Thanks for the link Gold Duck!

Time for someone to start selling a power source you can use to recharge batteries by turning a crank. They have wind up radios in parts of Africa, why not wind up laptops?

Wishing you better weather!

:4_8_4v:

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No Duck Egg this morning.:36_1_63: Did the genny pack up?

Hope he and Lt Dan are OK.

The duck pond is wood fired Tazzmann:bath: At least the Duck will still have his pond to keep warm in.

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We're doing fine today. I still have my generator running as the power has been going on and off all morning. On for 10-30 minutes and off for about an hour while they repair the next problem. On right now, so I have the net up. One hitch, the internet DSL modem runs very hot on the generator and slows or stops working. so for now I'll only be online while the power is on.

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If its not already you might want to run your DSL modem on a UPS........after going through some power/voltage issues during our last ice storm i put anything sensitive on voltage regulated UPS's

you need to be careful with electronics when the grid power starts coming back up we experienced multiple low voltage and temporary outage events and spikes that fried several electrical units and poped fuses in other equipment, i ended up with several electronic devices that insurance ended up replacing

we were using a inverter generator with pure sine wave output during the outage and had no issues you might want to check the voltage your generator is putting out

my gen ( i use the 240v outlet) seems to put out 113v on both legs +/- .2 volts spread and variation between the legs

all the issues came when we went back on the grid

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For those of you going through the power outage

Be sure and keep records of expenditures for insurance purposes such as

Fuel for generators etc

Food that might spoil in freezers and fridges (they will require a detailed list of each item and its replacement value)

Expenses to remove and dispose of Tree Debris

check all electical appliances for low or high voltage damage (lots of items such as DVD players etc will have a small fuse inside the machine at the first circut board where the power enters and is cheaply replaceable)

of course any frozen pipe damage (may not leak till you get things warmed back up)

any emergency services you might require

of course any property damages

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Glad you are OK. Did you manage to get more fuel? God help all these people who have no preps whatsoever for this sort of thing. I hope it wakes them up. Hurricane Juan up here woke up a lot of Nova Scotians, but sadly the memory seems to be fading fast at that was going back a few years now.

I'm sure the Duck is fine. He seldom goes out and is very well prepped.

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We're back up now. shut the generator down, rolled up the 300' of extension cords and piled them up for handy deployment. Whole area seems back up for the most part. I have to give the power company at least an A for their work. I had my scanner on and heard reports of power lines down all over the county. I'm heading into town to make that fuel run. Can't relax the preps.

My chickens survived the outage just fine. Funny, they haven't been out of the coop since it all started. Today I got out one of the red heat lights I used when I raised them and put it in there for them. hope they don't get spoiled.

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Safe drive Lt Dan. Glad the chooks are OK. Duck Egg is backwoods, I guess we wait to hear. Makes me see how sadly I'll miss this place one day. Get a good plug in phone y'all! It will last at least a bit longer. Prolong the GIM agony.

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The Ducks area of the country was hit very hard (not very far south of me)...and he was talking his generator pully was a issue and that kind of issue would get worse everytime he would start and stop his Genny

So i am guessing he is short or very limited on power right now...

Good news is the weather is warming up fast so things are melting and less need for heat.....i know our area sent a lot of utility crews down there to help and with this good weather power should get up faster.

so im guessin...its good news n bad news

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Here's a link to some pics: http://abcnews.go.com/US/AroundTheWo...t=false&page=1

My favorite is #7! Hasn't this guy heard of a HAT???

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I got back ok, roads and streets still either ice covered or patchy, only places were they bare.

I filled my gas cans at Sam's, $1.619 per gallon. Couple others there doing the same thing., don't know if they were still out or just restocking like me.

Our county was under level 3 emergency for a time during this storm. We are not exactly backwoods, more like flatlanders. However, we live out of town aways, so we're not as high a priority as town, it sometimes takes them a while to get us back up.

We're not looking for a warm up enough to do us any good for the next 10 on the weather channel website. So, ice is with us a while.

Hope The Duck gets thawed out real soon and back up. Kind of sucks his generator gave him trouble. As if it's not bad enough that the weather dumped on him.

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Thnx. I am glad the Duck found his new genny to be crap NOW. He is not dependent on it, for heat and light, I know that, though it was clearly a bonus for him, but I agree with what he says, some who have bought one might be dependent one for heat.

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We had ours right before xmas. We were without 3 days; did ok. Ran the generator, just the well pump, heater, and the furnace. Used our oil lanterns, battery latterns and candles...gas stove to cook off of. We did ok. But I think I want a bigger generator, so I can run the computer too :) We can handle a few days, a few weeks would be aggravating. I'm still dreaming about that natural gas generator that kicks in for the whole house, with the BU wood stove and windmill/solar for the well and pump.

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Any recent Duck sightings? Hope he's doing well.

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It looks as if he is still off the air.

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you must have a pretty good sized genny to pull a well pump? how large? did it work ok for the well?

last yr here one of my friends borrowed a genny 30amp 240 and it wouldnt start his pump i think the genny was a 7.5-8 kw and he was thinking he had a 5hp pump

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Let's hope he's thawing out. Best wishes Duck!

:shine:

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My 6k 30amp ran my pump fine. Not sure if the pump depth matters (120' for this one). He may want to mess around with it a little and see where the problem is. I think that generator should have run it.

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Well, our good Duck could be out for a while. Do hope he is OK. He had estimated Saturday for a power restore. I looked up the net and the nearest large community to him is mostly back up but the news item said 'rural areas nearby could remain without service for 'some time'.

The last estimate I saw for 'sometime' meant a week to, gasp, 3 weeks.

Hope the Pond is warm for him and he suffers no more bad equipment failures in the meantime.

Good luck, Duck Egg!:23_1_22:

Lt Dan I am glad you are sorted out and that your chickens did not suffer.

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After reading all of these posts, I am a little shocked. Small inexpensive gas Gensets are not the way to go.

Diesel is want you want. The low rpm models are expensive. If you can't afford one of those , then get a high rpm diesel. At the very least a high rpm diesel if cared for will outlast a similar gas or propane unit by a factor of 10.

And another very important reason to own a diesel genset is the fuel. I am able to store hundreds of gallons of diesel on my property and with the proper PRI additives it will last for years.

I won't have to make any fuel runs even after weeks or possibly months without power.

Luckily for us here in KY, we only lost power for a few hours. I did not even bother firing up the generator. I just got my two kerosene heaters going and that was enough to keep the house in the high 60s. And as for the Kerosene heaters, the same thing applies. I have hundreds of gallons stored . Kerosene and Diesel are extremely easy and stable to store if done right.

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I bought a portable kero heater and was amazed how warm it could keep the house. In addition, I have found that it does provide a small light source as well as being a cooking device. I can cook soup and make hot water. I have also put a camping stove on top of it and will heat it to 325 to 350 degrees.

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Could you please post some pictures,of those trees

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Well, the Duck, unfortunately, has just been the proof of this. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say when he is at last able to rejoin us.

The reason I don't have a generator myself is that I would need a massive one to run a deep well pump and it is just too expensive.

I have also understood that the only good generator is a diesel one. I think people cave in because of the price difference. Clearly a false economy.

When I was reading the net to try to find out what was happening in Duck's area one of the things I read was that some local hardware shops had trucked in a bunch of new small petrol gennies from out of state and they were going wrong in, well - flocks - so to speak, some very angry customers, apparently.

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Sorry, I'll disagree. The only "good" generator is one that you currently own, not the one that will take you months/years to save up for.

If you get a cheapie generator (like my 3.5KW Pep Boys unit), try it out BEFORE you need it, have basic consumables (oil, spark plugs), run it under load every month or two, you'll be far better off than somebody who is just planning to get one "some day." You'll also be much better off than a person who buys a generator at any price, and just stores that genset away, never having taken it out of the original box (yes, there are folks like that). Or there's the type of person like my uncle down in Mississippi, who has a mid-sized gas generator, but only a single can of gas (of unknown age). He figures that living so close to gas stations, they'll be able to get gas if they need it. Not quite.

It's easy to store a week's worth of gasoline in steel jerry cans with PRI-G stabilizer, and rotate that through the cars to use it up if needed.

Yes, a nice diesel generator would be better than the 3600RPM small gas engine version.

As with the rules of gunfighting, where rule #1 is "have a gun", my first rule in providing basic power backup to my home is "have a tested generator."

When we were without power here in SW Ohio back in mid-September for 10 days, ours was the ONLY home in our area with any generator power.

You can always get something better, but a reasonable first step is to get something in the first place.

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You could be right. Anything is better than nothing. But the Duck's little effort broke down on the first real test of it.

Hey, this prepping thing is a learning curve. At least we on GIM are trying to learn and take it seriously, and to share our mistakes.

It is very hard not to despair at times, but we have to keep trying.:36_3_12:

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I run my generators every month under load. The time to test your equipment is before you need it. I know a guy who tells me he will not buy a generator until he can get one big enough to run his entire house, thats all great except what happens when the power goes off now? He and his family sit in the dark and cold wishing they had some type of generator, any type of generator.

I think its a good idea to have a backup for your backup and not put off buying one of the most needed pieces of equipment you will need, and you will need it one day.

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Duck, If u can read this post it means u got ur power back and we look forward to reading ur further survival adventrues..

Out of power here for three days in kentucky. I ran kerosene heat and had running water until the last day.. It amazes me at how much is luxury in our lives. People lived without electric for thousands of years, now we loose it for a day and have trouble coping.. (I have a small generator, but never fired it up). I realized how soft we are from having it so easy most of our lives.

But what gets me is that your out there in the bush getting fired upon by mother natche and some ahole in his warm mother's basement is giving you crap about how u spell QUACK? If Al Pacino from "Scent of a Woman" were here he would stand up and give that smug frat boy a very direct, "and if ur in the crowd listening -- Quack YOU too motherfugger."

Hang in there bro,, see ya when u come out of the bush...

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From what I read of the Generator problom it had absolutely nothing to do
with Gas vs. Diesel.. it was a pulley problem.
We always need test our back up system before an emergency hits.

Duck, hope you are doing well.
It sound like hundreds of thousands were caught unprepared and are
leaving their homes.

I hope you didn't have to bail out.

Peace
TLM

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A BIG plus. That guy likes to pi$$ people off just to be a troll. He has done the same thing to me and others. Wish one of the mods would take him on and actually send him back to his mothers basement for good. I've yet to see one post of his that wasn't some type of insult to someone. And, "That's all I got to say about that!"

I really hope The Duck gets his power back soon. He said his genny was a DR I think. I almost bought one of their products, glad i didn't. As for diesel, I've looked at those, but when I needed a generator I had to take what was left and not what I would have liked. For occasional outages, I think a gas generator is fine if you get a good one. I bought my first one (still works) a Honda. Only genny I could find at the time. I have two others now, all three are gas. The others will run more stuff than just the refer and freezer. One my son uses for his house and I've lent out the little one to friends or family when they have outages.

Well, busy day today. Gotta go!

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Well, at least I would not be in the cold and dark as I have a number of oil lamps etc and put in a wood cookstove last fall. Also have a kerosene heater and a couple of 'Black Cat' things.

I think what I really need to do here, rather than spend thousands on a genny is to get a hand pump on the well.

Keef, you are certainly right, electricity has spoilt us. Glad to hear you have got your power back. :15_1_70v:

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I agree,low rpm diesels are the way to go.

But..... a good gas one will burn all the fuel you have on hand.

Stick with yamaha or honda and make sure they are single cylinder.

Mixing in oil with gas is for 2 stroke engines only.

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+1

Our well is over 100 feet deep, and last year was very wet so i don't know how far down the water is in a dry year. The difference in cost between a deep well hand pump and a shallow one are substantial. This is number two on our list (after chickens) this spring. Probably bite the bullet for a deep well pump by Bison just to be sure. We have water in the winter from a very shallow wet hole behind our house and from the roof if its warm enough.

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QWAK,QWAK:s1::shine: The DUCK is back on the GRID -- just had a post ready to send and power droped for a min. -- so Just going to let you KNOW WE had a GRAND ADVENTURE:yes: and got lots of experiences to share once things simmer down a bit and I refill the DUCK POND --- had to drain most of the 350 gal in 5 gal buckets to flush the CAMODE!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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Welcome back!

I bet your ears were burning while you were absent from the board--we've been talking about you and wondering what adventures you've been having!

I'm looking forward to hearing all about it once you catch up with everything...

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Glad to hear that the power is back in your near future GD. After a month without power in 2004(hurricanes) I know what it is like.

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QWAK, QWAK.....Welcome back!

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QWAK,Keef,Well we are now back on line /on the GRID and it was mostly an UNNESSARY ADVENTURE as the power grid FAILED mostly because of FAILURE to maintain the RIGHT OF WAYS on PURPOSE! :yes:

In 2000 we were down 8 days and the GOV picked up 75% of the cost -- since THEN they have been spraying "AGENT ORNGE" or what ever they renamed it and just killing the vegitation close but only about 20 feet either side of the lines some places less :yes: It is a FIRE DANGER (all the dead dry vegitation) but the 30+ foot trees fall on the lines and DOWN they go! They are suposed to maintain a 60 foot rite of way!!

They spend about the same amount of $$$ as IF they cut the trees back yearly BUT the FED. GOV pickes up 75% of the TAB and the guys doing the work get payed DOUBLE and TRIPLE TIME so they tend to MILK THE JOB for all it is worth!:yes:

It was a good test of EQUIPMENT systems and PEOPLE!:yes::shine:

I did a bunch of NEW "NOTHING DAYS" so I had fun doing MY thing:wink::yes: Got to say I was disapointed that SOoooooooooo many were just like COWS MOOING -- saying "FEED ME" not realising that THEY "ARE the FOOD" :yes: and the GOVERNMENT is the one raising and maintaining THEM as "LIVE STOCK"!!

A fiew got some MREs -- IF they were part of the local social structure I did not.

Speaking of MREs they had two truck loads full up in Fayetteville but did not hand them out because SOME had little packs of POSABLY tainted PEANUT BUTTER!:36_1_30:

the DUCK

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Good to see you back up and waddling, Duck. i guess those guys over at DR are gonna get a herring.

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Good to hear from you, DUCK.

I've been shooting too much. Your post above looks like a target riddled with holes. The nodding pink guys were off the mark but the sunshiney guy was a bullseye. Just squint out the words and you'll see it. The angry guy was a real flyer, you must've flinched.

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:shine:Welcome back to GIM Duck....you were missed and I am glad you are okay. :23_1_22:

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FLAP!

Glad you have got the power back, Duck Egg. :shine:

Bet you'll be relieved to get the Pond refilled.:bath:

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Welcome back DUCK, my power was only off about 2 days and we got through it fine.

The sad thing about those mooing cows is they will only demand the gov't do more for them, instead of waking up and prepping. Like you making a list of things you need to improve on, I did about the same thing. I don't see folks around me doing anything different. Kind of like they :565: around thinking how the gov't got 'em through again.

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I was outside raking and contemplating DUCK's dismissal of Gov't rations and thought that if I were in a similar predicament I might actually head out and get in line for 2 reasons; 1- Appear "normal" and 2- Flesh out my own preps. Of course, if it meant standing in freezing weather I think I'd just stay inside.

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QWAK,Professur,Just lost a great post to respond to your post! LOL:4_1_72:

The DR. people did get called once I found and riged up a very old phone last MONDAY! Said they would send me a new generator but friday when I called it had not shiped yet (most likely they sold a lot of generators with the storm!:yes::4_1_72:)

I did have one gadgit I got cheep at LOWS last summer and I should have bought 5 of them!:yes:

It is a "Black and Decker" emergency light for the car. Runs on 6 "AA" batteries has 18 brite LEDs in the main light that can be all on or just 12 or 6 plus a long goose neck arm with 2 independent brite LEDs.:shine:

A lot of light ware and as much as needed to actualy do somthing!:yes::shine:

I think I payed $9.00 for it because no body bought them original price was 429.00 If I remember right and I just bought it as a whim because they had so many and so cheep.

Made in China of corse but fairly rugged and with the magnetic clip or using the jaws easly positioned and the goose neck arm was GREAT!:s1:

The only change I would make to IT would be to replace the magnetic tray arm with another 3 LED light and a 12 volt adaptor plug for external power!:thinkey:

the DUCK

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We bought one of these last year, and went back and bought four more last month so we wouldn't need to fight over the one:

http://www.fishingmagic.com/news/ima...rgizerlamp.jpg

It's an LED headlamp by Energizer. Has multiple options--high beam, low beam, red.

Much more convenient than a flashlight, and you never have to set it down to be able to do something with your hands.

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Awesome to hear that your alive and well.

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QWAK,SLV>GLD,The local volenteer fire department aparently came down the road and did deliver a fiew MREs and bottled water but I do not PAY in to it (some call them "FOUNDATION SAVERS" as they generly just hose down the ashes:yes: IF they show up and you have NOT payed you get a BIG BILL from them :yes:

When the grocery stoor burned down 5 years ago they had always payed and were just a 1/2 mile from the station and AFTER the fire the got a HUGE BILL too ANY WAY!:yes:

Still it would have been nice to get some MREs as the one I bought were EXPENCIVE!:yes:

I gave away several boxes of food caned tuna and ham and soup and vegies even packs of OREOS forthe kids.:wink:

Went in to town friday to fill 3 propain tanks and got about $25.00 worth of day old fried chicken chunks from the local fried chicken place (they sell me the cold fried chicken 1/2 price:s1:) droped that off at a neabor house ware many sort of congrigate. thet generator failed but they got a new one and they are storing my thawed out OMAHA STEAK stash!:yes:

I am thinking of puting up the new 10 man tent out front and having a BIG BAR B QUE!:yes: sort of a comunity thing but no one I have talked to so far seems intristed in helping!?:questionm:questionm:questionm

the DUCK

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QWAK,Ralleia,I have several of similar small head lamps like that as back ups and posable hand outs or barter goods. The one I have has 12 LEDS with various amounts on and flashing as an option. IT is very brite on the high setting and runs on 3 "AAA" batteries. Had one fail last year it seems the LED devices are very sencitive to battery leakage and IF they do they are almost imposable to repair!

IF you are not using it TAKE the batteries OUT which is somthing I almost never do!:stupido2::stupid::embarasse:shot:

the DUCK

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Hello Duck!!!!! Nice to see you thawed out form the deep freeze!!

We missed you... :36_3_16:

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QWAK,Avalon,I was nice and warm for the most part just no 110 so no lights or HEATED DUCK POND or TV or inter net:s1::yes: When I got my stuff as up and running as I could I could not just sit here so found ways to help others and improve there situations -- kind of FUN realy:wink:

Every body with a chain saw headed for town (Fayetteville) and were instently in the tree triming business!:yes: A lot of out of state rip off artests SPOILED it for the locals who realy NEEDED the work!

They cracked down hard and if they wanted to work had to take a TEST and get LICENCED and take out INSURANCE!:yes:

Heard there was a FIGHT in Wallmart over "D" batteries!:yes:

Two little old ladies got CLIPED for $5000.00 for 7 guys to do 2 hours work removing tree limbs!!:36_1_30::36_1_28:

Two guys stole a small generator that was riged to power up a small local phone company the first bad day so a bunch of people had no phones!:36_1_28:

It was an ADVENTURE and an EXPERIENCE but It was not too bad for ME the CAT and the DOG, We were FORCED to eat two FELEY MENYON (sp)steaks wraped in baccon when the freezer thawed :yes: both the cat and dog got the best FOOD of there LIVES -- I like to share a little but there was just SOOooooo much stuff that needed to be eaten even THEY ate till they could EAT NO MORE!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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You pass Duck, good to see you again.:553:

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:applause_:applause_:applause_:applause_

Hey Duck, it's good to see you!


Sounds like things got interesting but remained manageable? It also sounds like good relations with one's neighbors are an essential part of prepping.

And I guess your cat and dog will be hoping for another storm!

bancha


I have a couple of the little Energizer headlamps, just checked the batteries for leakage, thanks. I think Avalon mentioned you said some rechargable stuff from China was below standard, which were those?

Anyway, it's good to have you back and to see you didn't lose a feather.


:shine:

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QWAK,latemetal, Passed WHAT?:questionm:questionm I diden't even see IT go BY -- WHAT did I miss?:questionm:questionm:111::4_1_72::shine:

I'm just tired and a little PUNCHEY so remind me when IT comes by agen -- so I don't miss IT next time!:yes::111::shine:

the DUCK

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I'm glad you hear you stayed warm and you and the pets were well feed..

So do you have any additional SHTF tips for us after your experience?

Did you use any of your preps?

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FELEY MENYON?!!!

Forgive me Duck :111:

I didn't post about you and the pets dinning on that and just said 'steak' as I was not sure how to spell it. I am delighted to see you have no such inhibitions yourself.:tongue_ma:

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I am of the firm belief that grammar and spelling inhibit a persons creative abiltiy to write..

Let the Duck be free!!!!!! :shine:

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QWAK,Lots of things did not work as I had planed -- best layed plans of DUCKS and MEN as they say!:wink:

I bought 10 -- 20 watt floresent lights that can run on 110 and SHOULD come on when power fails, runing on small 12 volt rechargable batteries of the 7 tried -- 7 FAILED but could be run on 12 volts off of a deep cicle battery ,once I riged up home made cords with proper size jacks.

Also a CRANK UP LANTERN (12 LED) battery would not charge!

Both from Sportsmans Guide.:36_1_28:

A big "TRIPP" inverter -- would not INVERT :wink: don't know why, opened it up and nothing was burned and all fuses OK??:questionm:dontknow:

A small inverter in my Tahoe (but I think I killed it by reversing polarity wile I was hooking it up):dontknow:

My 4 "D" cell "MAG-LITE" did not work and no aparent reason?

Got a couple temp and weather devices that did not work properly easpecialy the automatic TIME part. I had to add 1:15 to the time it was displaying -- drove me a little CRAZY and could not find the instruction manual to reset it! LOL:confused_ma:

Like I said IF the pully had NOT come off the generator it would have been NO BIG change HERE!

I bought 5 NATO 5 gal JERRY cans and they need a special flex spout, the one I bought was cheeply construcyed so ware it latched on to the can did not seal properly so LEAKED GAS when filling the generator--- NOT a GOOD thing!! Some lady in town blew her self up and burned much of her house FILLING a HOT GENERATOR!! A little spilled GAS is a BIG NO NO!!:36_1_30:

the DUCK

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Hey, I think that is very creative indeed!:shine: Long live the Duck's freedom of expression.:yes:

I wrote it on a piece of paper various ways, but I never managed to get near saying it correct 'Duckish'.

I am glad we have him back to say it for himself.:shine:

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QWAK,Avalon,I tried some of my MountanHouse freeze dried food,Scrambled eggs and baccon were OK not GREAT but the dog and I liked them!:yes:

The Macaroni and cheese was more like macaroni and cheese SOUP but taisted good!

The FREEZE DRIED ICE CREAM bars are GREAT:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

The bigist hastle was FINDING the stuff I know I got but NOT what box and WARE :yes::hahaha::dontknow: I got to get WAY more ORGANISED and lable the stuff much better too!:yes:

the DUCK

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FEI (for everyone's info): Filet Mignon
Though, I definitely like Duck's version. Admittedly, I even like duck!! eek!

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Closest I got to that was 'fillet minion'.

Duck's version is far superior.

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QWAK,Max,Dyslexia was the core problem for my NEASE who killed her self CHRISTMAS DAY!:yes:

She was embarised that she could not READ and WRIGHT and many other problems which made her SELF CONCIOUS and could not FIND with in her self the SPECIAL talents that DYSLEXIA also makes happen or be POSABLE!:452:

Virtualy ALL the GREAT MINDS and INVENTORS and artists in almost all fields of endevor have been DYSLEXIC people who found NEW ways to do things -- mostly because they HAD to as a way to COMPENSATE for them not being able to do things in the CONVENTIONAL WAYS!:yes:

With out the ANOMALIES and MISTAKES that turn out to be IMPROVMENTS LIFE could NOT EVOLVE!:yes::shine:

So SAD that DAWN could not FIND her special ABILITYS and GIFTS and been able to SHARE them:yes: She believed being DIFERENT wad BAD and somthing to be ASHAMED of -- as did I for most of my life too.

A fiew NDE and I don't care NO MORE:yes::111::4_1_72: I like being ME!:shine: If others DON'T -- that is THERE problem -- not mine!:452:

I fix problems by INVENTING solutions to problems -- It is just sort of what I do and WHO I am. Some things WORK, some things DON't, but we/I keep trying NEW things till we fine what WORKS for US or close enough!:yes::shine: HE HE HE HE:s1:

the DUCK

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nice 2 see ya back, Ducky...

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Welcome Back Duck. :15_1_70v:

Do you have some pictures to post of what you went through?

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QWAK, I just talked to the lady that delivers the mail out here -- THEY got some MREs yesterday (day 12) the local volenteer fire department had them but was NOT handing them out -- left overs from the 2000 ICE STORM so they did not REQUEST new MREs and when they did hand them out RATIONED the old ones to two meals per person!

They had hot meals IN the fire station free to who could get down to THEM but did NOT offer them the MREs but rather localy cooked food which the GOV will of corse PAY them! :yes:

The roads were BAD but pasable since the first day -- people out here cleared the roads them selves so they COULD have been delivering MREs and water for at least 10 days!:rant:

Some call that local volenteer fire department the "FOUNDATION SAVERS" -- as that is all they ever SAVE once a fire starts!! :yes:

I shot a bunch on my cam corder but can't up load it to the net because of computer problems.

Got a great clip of the mail delivery lady with a baby "RAZOR BACK PIG" her boys cought just befor the storm after the mother was shot (hunting) and all the others ran off. It gets along great with there little dog,even acts like a dog!:yes: It is now about the size of a Chawawa but will grow to 200 or 300 LB! It's CUTE NOW but I bet it is BACCON later!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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So glad to see you're back and in good form, Duck! :yes:

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That is one HECK of a well pump!

We have a 150 ft 4 inch well with a 1 1/2hp submerged pump. Our 6500 watt china diesel genset runs the well just fine, as well as pretty much all the lighting and the septic at the same time.

Sounds like his starting capacitor on his well may have been out.

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Glad to see you OK Duck. Very interesting thread. Happy we didn't get the ice a few hundred miles north in Michigan. Been a heavy winter with 125 inches of snow so far here along Lake Michigan.

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Welcome back!

I think I have the same sort of nozzle (Sportsman's Guide Taiwan's finest!). I removed the gasket & squirted some silicone sealant underneath it. Pushed the gasket till it was about flush with the metal lip & let the silicone cure a week or two. No more leaks.

One other VERY useful thing is a Super Siphon. See:
www.expeditionexchange.com/supersiphon

Amazon also has them.

I used it during our outage back in September to drain fuel from jerrycans into a 2 gal gas can (for easy top-offs of the generator fuel tank).

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QWAK,____hoot____, Like I said just a TEST:wink: one time about 15 years ago me and the DOG had to eat FROZEN RATTLE SNAKES because that was all that was left to eat in the cabin and the truck was broke down so I could not get to town for more food!:yes:

Tried cooking the snakes in a pressure cooker on top the wood stove:yes: both the DOG and my self decided NOT to eat all the SNAKES but just enough to keep WORKING on finding a way to FIX the STARTER on the TRUCK!:yes:

I jamed a NICKLE under one side of the starter bolts cocking it just enough to ingage the fly wheel and START the truck and get to town to buy a new starter and food!:thinkey:

Being HUNGRY and in an EMERGENCY forces one to get CREATIVE and some how FIND a way ware NO WAY seems posable! :thinkey::yes:

That is the GOOD part of all BAD situations!:yes::shine::15_1_70v:

This time was just a good test and an evaluation of what needs to be adjusted and ANTICIPATED in future emergencies.:s1:

the DUCK

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Welcome back Duck!! Sounds like you got a lot of kinks in the system located, while your overall good prep level kept you (and some others) comfy. I bet DR will make it right for you.

I'm one of those with an untested modest gas generator new in the box, but in my defense, it is a Honda, which has a good reliability reputation, and I am saving for a bigger natural gas/ propane one. I think my resale of my Honda will be highest new in the box. So unless I need it I'm not firing it up. I keep both vehicles topped up and have can and siphon to fill the Honda if need be.

On more people prepping: my wife is looking at a kitchen and home gadgets catalog she gets and it has rain barrels and solar and LED emergency lights. I think hurricanes and ice storms have more people thinking prep. The way prep food is selling is one indicator... but this catalog is mostly cute matching pots and pans or canisters or yard ornaments or... well more low brow fashion than serious items and prep gear there is fully mainstreamed.

We adore headlamps. Our first open to change the batteries with a knurled metal screw, which rocks. I bought 2 with more LEDs in a Browning brand and you had to bend (and maybe break) the plastic case to open them. I never got the first one out of its plastic case open so I sent both back. How useful are LEDs that last forever if you shatter the device fast or can't get batteries in at all? So I advise a close inspection. It also combined instructions for headlamps, flashlights, cap lights and keychain lights in one tiny page in english and french. The putting in batteries part for multiple headlamps was a stamp size pic that did not tell you what direction to pull after you bent the plastic. Sheesh! From Browning! But good headlamps rock!

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Flap, Duck Egg.

Yes it is a shame Dawn did not recognizes the talent innate in her difference.

I hope the, also pretty dyslexic, Lucas, will one day tell us his own December would be suicide tale first hand on here, as you also once said to me you hoped. He was not dyslexic from birth and said he used to be able to spell very well, but he does not now, post serving in Iraq.

He is kind of embarrassed about it, as he sees GIM as a rather intellectual 'older persons' site, though he lurks. But I hope your spelling is an inspiration to those, of all ages, who fear to post and think they look foolish as for one reason or another they cannot spell.

Your ideas surpass your capacity to spell, Duck Egg, and I think we are all glad that you think, and post, 'outside the box'. You also have taught us all here to look beyond the spelling etc to see the message.:wink:

SO glad you are back here.:553:

You were missed on here.:23_1_22:

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Oh, yes! :yes:

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QWAK,CrufflerJJ,When I looked at the spout locking latch one side the hinge pin is slightly bent so it does not put enough pressure on that side of the gasket.

I have a 5 gal PLASTIC container with a PUMP and hose that makes filling easy but of corse that pump don't fit the NATO jerry cans!:confused_ma:

This was just a crude test for me I need to build a tool shed and GAS storage system . I have several heavy 55 gal barrels that have been here for about 25 years waiting for THAT project:wink: Got to build a fuel dump!:yes:

the DUCK

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great to have you back :23_1_22:

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If it is really a 5hp pump, and an 8Kw generator, I'm not surprised it wouldn't start it. The starting current would be way too much for the genny. It would RUN it fine, constantly - but not actually start it running!

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Oh, PS - I have 3 large generators so don't need to worry about power - but if I only had one, I would pick up one of the cheap and nasty 800W ones they sell for about $70.
Complete trash, but as a backup they would run what you REALLY needed for baseline comfort - heat and lights, assuming you didn't have electric heating.

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Duck, be very careful about those 55 gal drums with that much age. I had some and they developed leaks over time. Seems rust mites like to eat on them worse than a regular fuel tank. I got tired of storing diesel in those 5 gallon plastic containers and bought a home heating oil tank to keep it in. Diesel #2 is the same oil as home heating oil #2. Expensive one time project, but from the first fill up you start saving money and your back. Just a thought.

As for spelling, I always did so poorly at it in school that I think I was labeled, (not sure what), but until I started pulling 100% grades in math and near that in science, the teachers thought I was too dumb to learn. Some actually said it out loud. That really hurt especially with peer pressure. They didn't quite know what to label me after that. With me, it was their method of teaching not my ability to learn. I do not spell well even today, THANK YOU FIREFOX! The spell check in Firefox is always tripping me up and so I have to go over what I type and correct the mistakes before I post. Just continue being THE DUCK that we've all come to know and love.

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QWAK,Lt Dan,Thease are from hospital grade GRAIN ALCHAHOL-- some is still inside some barrels!:yes: Used a bit to SPIKE some home made red wine --- stil don't remember ALL that went on at THAT PARTY!:banana::birthday::23_31_2::cry1:

Got to check them for RUST but last time I looked they seemed rust free. :s1:

I also have a large home oil tank on pipe legs that I want to set up and fill with dezel -- I cheet and use a little dezel to start my fires --- that rubing two sticks thing was hurting my hands!:hahaha::thinkey::yes:

SOoooooooooo many projects and just ONE DUCK! LOL :15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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That hospital grade stuff is supposed to be good as Arkansas shine! No wonder no rust, hehee!!!

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QWAK,I got the drums up in Chicago and chained them down on the back of a flat bed trailor and hauled them down here when I was going threw my TOTAL SCROUNGING time -- any thing I could imagin could HELP and I could get for FREE or little cost I hauled to the cabin!:yes:

Caved in the roof of my old chevie pick up truck hauling 4x6 22' beams down here -- they became the ROOF of my HUGE green house Bath 46' long by 36'!

I know I looked like the Beverly Hillbillies every time I went to the cabin the first 8 years but I did not care -- I knew then and still believe one day MOST will WISH they had what I got:yes:

Every thing I got is PAYED FOR -- every thing THEY got is RENTED -- the DIFERENCE will soon be OBVIOUS!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

Shniney an NEW on credit is NICE but OLD and strong and PAYED for is BETTER!:yes::111:

the DUCK

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[QUOTE=Lt Dan;1559190]Duck, be very careful about those 55 gal drums with that much age. I had some and they developed leaks over time. ""
.
.
. For longer term fuel storage, I obtain freshly drained motor oil barrels, spray paint the bottom SEAM with 2 coats of primer, and 4 coats of enamel. then I fill with diesel, tape over the bung and spray a coat of paint on the top.
I ran some 10 year storage diesel through the dodge a few months ago, canned in 1998, NO PRESERVATIVE. worked fine.

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QWAK,ICE STORM keeps killing locals -- today a local man got hit by the point of a falling large tree branch -- hit him in the top of his head and came out his chin! His two young sons watched it happin!:yes:

Another local was helping drop a large limb and it was too heavy for him to hold,rope cought him under the arm and pulled him head first in to the tree trunk breaking his NECK -- he broke two vertabrea but will live and with lots of therepy should walk agen perhaps even WORK!:dontknow:

Chain saws and falling trees aint as easy as it looks on TV!:452::36_1_30:

Been lots of other accidents and I am shure some very JAGED SCARS --- not only on TREES!:yes:

the DUCK

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Good Lord, Duck!

I meant to mention to you that I read on other sites about your storm that in your state all beds were full, in most hospitals. Due to chain saw accidents and to people who had fallen over and been in MV accidents in the ice. ALSO due to numerous suicide attempts.

I also read that the classified ads were full of people -er I mean that term lightly - selling brand new gennys, they had just bought, the second the power came back on in the towns. Might be a good time to buy a spare? Check the ads, pal.

Keep safe, Duck Egg.

Just be sure to live dangerously, more carefully, as you said in you hilarious quote today on another thread.:9536:

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No kidding. A friend of mine tears down old barns and warehouses for some pay and the materials. He gets some beams from when old growth huge trees still existed that are like iron. I understand 'Old Ironsides' the oak tall ship better after inspecting those beams.

He then builds with them like you do. He has sold one house, built the one they live in, one they rent, and one their daughter and her husband are buying from them.

He could build more if he used more help, but he enjoys doing as much himself as possible.

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Not for gas though Fullpower - I think most gas is 10% ethanol now in the US? That will soften and flake any paint eventually - it even does it to virtually every epoxy (including JB-Weld) or fuel tank repair coating on the market, apparently (not from experience) - one called "Red-Kote".
You don't want flaky paint in your gas.
If they held hospital grade ethanol they should be just fine if sealed correctly - seal them, then paint the seal and the ouside with bitumen paint and they should be fine for a couple of years if the duck uses stabiliser.

[quote=Fullpower;1559485]

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Long time, no Duck, on here today.

Has he just gone out to re stock? Or has he over boiled in the Pond? Or has the power gone down again?

Qwak up, Duck Egg, where are you!

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QWAK,Max,Was out replacing the SAUSAGE and CHEESE "nothing DAY" gift that the MEXICANS got!:hahaha::yes:

I added in some some STEAKS,a HAM and some pork chops to make up for the two weak delay.:wink:

just one more on my list but will have to wait longer as BAD STORMS coming agen --- 3 to 5 inches of rain and tornado warning tell 10 pm this evening!

the ADVENTURE continues!!

HI HO SILVER -- AWAY!!:yes::shine::111::4_1_72:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Flap, Duck Egg!

ANOTHER storm? And you haven't even got your duff genny replaced yet? The fun never stops down your way, does it?

Be sure to anchor yourself in the Pond in anticipation of this tornado. At least you got a chance to refill it.

Don't want you blowing all the way to Oz just yet.:553:

How's Cat-rina going on with her 'nesting' activities? I hope you are going to post the results on the 'Cool Cat of the Day' thread.:wink:

Look after yourself:23_1_22:

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We are in the line of those storms and tornados also....I am a couple of hours NE of you....will be a full and intresting evening:36_1_25:

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QWAK,TTAZZMAN,We lucked out so far at the DUCK NEST:yes:,It was overcast almost all day so the storm did not get extra power from the sun heating.

We got about 3/4" of rain so far but MISSED the "GOLF BALL HAIL" that did hit about 40 miles from here!

IT will come in WAVES tonight!

I shure am glad I bought that SILVER FIRE FIGHTER out fit from the surplus place as I almost EXPECT --- FIRE and BRIM STONE -- NEXT!:111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Wow! Keep safe! Prayers for both of you.

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QWAK,Max, Just part of the ADVENTURE!:yes::shine:

I some times think that with out the ADVENTURE and the HARD TIMES that fiew would CHOSE to EXIST at this LEVEL :yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

No matter how bad and how hard it may be -- IT is REALY all about FREE CHOICE!:yes: And IT is NEVER realy OVER -- things just CHANGE!:shine::36_3_13::36_1_11:

the DUCK

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Duck man? How u with company?

I was lookin at the map and ur cabin is only a day's drive from where I live (central kentuck). In fact, I got shellacked by the same ice storm as you, enjoyed living on preps for three days.

Truth is, I didn't enjoy it and it came as a 'wake up' call to get more serious about preps.. Alot was mental/emotional and we prepare little in those areas, most everything is centered on physical survival. But when Max reported all those suicides in ur state I realized how soft we are from the lack of adversity in modern life.

Anyhow, I was thinkin about visiting ur health spa this summer if ur open to the company. We have no idea how bad this collapse is going to be. There may be a need for folks like us to band together for mutual self defense. We hope it doesn't get that bad, but I am studying every possible scenerio..


If I came to visit I would be sure to bring some local produce.. trade items. It would be nice to sit down and talk face to face with someone that understands the situation we are in. I am tired of the small talk w/sheeple.

I have a feeling if we really knew the future, exactly what would happen, we would be preparing retreat farms while it is still easy. I saw a little of how hard life could get in that ice storm. The average overwieght american ain't ready for that shite.

Anyhow bro. Thanks for adding alot to the board n stay in touch.. :wink:

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QWAK,Keef You will be WELCOME here!:s1: May have to stay in a TENT but full access to the DUCK POND and what ever I can share with you!:15_1_70v:

Actualy I shine my BEST when things get CRAZY -- perhaps because I have had SOooooooooooo much EXPERIENCE?:questionm:dontknow::hahaha::thinkey: :cry1: :15_1_70v:

You planing to BIKE in or drive car/truck?

the DUCK

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Wow, another one?

:36_1_63:

When do you expect to have a working genny again?

Keep under cover and stay safe Duck!

:shine:

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Just a weekend car trip. Would be a good excuse to pull out the camping gear, I have a ton of stuff I never used.

Probobly would be late summer, by that time we may have an idea of how ugly this is gonna get.

Then we can smokus pufus on the peace pipe n forget about it... hahaha..

I stopped planning vacations after last year. Now it's about networking with as many people as I can about survival.

So, we will see what happens bro.. Hopefully all the roads are cleared out by then.. :biggrin:

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QWAK,immanti,I called them last Wed and they said they would ship a new generator asap. I called friday and it had not shiped yet and I have not heard more from them.:dontknow:

Called on the EMERGENCY floresent lights and I can return them but got to find the original shiping orders and pay to ship them back.

Lots of stuff to fix or repair or replace -- that is why the ice storm was such a good TEST! Best to KNOW NOW rather than later when there are fiew if any options.:yes:

the DUCK

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Well, at least you know that if they ship it UPS it will get delivered! :biggrin:

This storm was a test for you and a wake up call for many of us, thanks for sharing your experience.

:applause_

There has to be some whiz kid out there who can plug up an old exercise bike to a rechargable battery so I can pedal and keep my laptop working if all else fails...

:thinkey:

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Flap, Duck,

'A grand life if you don't weaken,' my Grandma used to say.:yes:

Yeah, I wonder what they put on the 'recruiting posters' for this place up there?:biggrin:

Still got your roof? I guess you must do, if you are still on line. I looked at the wx map and see you have an occluded section of the front pretty much sitting right over you.

Well, at least you got the chance to get your dishes washed and have a bath. Hope the fire and brimstone holds off, but at least you are prepped for that, by the sound of it.:bear_tongue:

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QWAK, , I went looking foran old WW2 "hand crank" generator for you could not find one BUT found some other GOODIES and the prices are good.

I have bought a lot of stuff from them and never had any problems.:s1:

http://store.colemans.com/cart/emerg...ucts-c-13.html

They can even get you a "DUCE and a HALF" if you want one (I would like to have one :yes: )

You may want to call them.

The old hand crank generator they used to power radio equipment was almost INDESTRUCTABLE and could be adapted to wind or water power if you were a little creative.:wink:

I believe they do make small -- made in China (PLASTIC gear) hand crank generators to recharge phone and pc batteries but I dbout they would hold up to long term use.:dontknow:

I am going to call them my self --- I think I may want to buy a "BODY BAG"

http://store.colemans.com/cart/gi-st...bag-p-474.html

They say it is big enough for a MOOSE LOL --- I'm thinking it could be just the thing for the NEW 10 man ARTIC TENT! :)

the DUCK

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Forget the small hand crank stuff from China - a joke.

That is a great site, Duck.

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QWAK,Max,If you want to UP GRADE to a REAL TRUCK and go OFF road I can tell you one of THEASE will not be stoped by much!

http://store.colemans.com/cart/m35a2...lf-p-2093.html

I realy liked driving a "DUCE" in Nam!

They turned them in to "GUN trucks" to protect convoys -- "MIGHTY MINNY" had QUAD 50s and was AWSOME!! :yes:

the DUCK

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QWAK,Max,Got the DUCK POND a little too hot wile I was out,122 -- I am leting it cool down and HOPE to watch a good LIGHTENING show once it does -- don't know how well POLYCARBONATE roof will hold up to FIRE and BRIM STONE -- Guess we will SEE! :wink::yes::111::4_1_72:

Well it is a TEST so --BRING IT ON! LOL:15_1_70v::shine:

the DUCK ROTFL

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Well, that is pretty serious, isn't it?:biggrin:

'Cannot be sold to foreign buyers or imported out of the USA.':thumpdown The Land Rover story all over again!

I don't think I could afford the gas (diesel?) for one of those babies anyway. I can see why you fancy one though, Duck.

I see there has been a large tornado on the ground at a place called Lone Grove, I think that is Oklaholma. Torn up a trailer park, injuries.

http:www.tornadovideos.net

If you click on the 'news'.

Keep safe tonight. You and Tazzmann. Have to go. :sleepy13: I need to get up and get to the doctor tomorrow.

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I followed one of those trucks on I-40 today. NCARNG or North Carolina Army Reserve National Guard. Had roughly 100 tarp wrapped packages on the back (very non-symmetrical without corners). Each package about the size of a german shepherd if it were wrapped in a tarp. WTH? I dunno...

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PS. Sure you can think of some means of improvising for the polycarbonate roof.:signs1:

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My guess would be bales of money, freshly printed of course.

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The last of the Katrina dead???? Oops, wrong forum! :biggrin:

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Flap Duck!

So did the tornadoes and golf ball sized hail and the fire and brimstone and plague of frogs and all that pass you by last night?

What about Tazzmann?

It seems they had 'fun' with it all in Oklaholma last night, and some fatalities, unfortunately.

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QWAK,Max,A lot of wind and rain mostly here -- had to drain "the RIVER of FIRE" 4 times and it is filling agen just from the saturated ground! Glad I did not lose POWER or I would have had to get a ROW BOAT to get to the CAMODE!:yes::111::4_1_72: Usualy I just build a BRIDGE when that happens :wink::hahaha: :111:

I did have a small 1 man vinale boat (a cheepy on that I scrounged and repaired) but the RATS chewed holes in it!:yes::111::4_1_72:

I turned off the lights and just floated on my back and watched the lightening -- it was not a great show last night --- but better than TV!:shine:

the DUCK

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Glad you made out OK, and that you didn't have to row to the commode.

You've never mentioned 'The River or Fire' before, unusual sort of water feature?:bear_happy:

I have an inverter and a deep cycle battery that supposedly is there to run my sump pump in the cellar if the power fails while it is lashing down here. Well, last time that combination occurred, about a year ago, I had the opposite problem to you. My inverter was just fine, but the battery had discharged. :banghead: My stupid fault for not checking it regularly. The cellar filled up to about a foot deep amazingly fast and it was very surprising what sort of things started floating about - a cardboard box with snow chains in it? Now have one of those trickle chargers for the battery.

Have you made any progress with replacing the inverter?

Pity the rats got your dingy. Did they get your parachute too?:wink:

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Duck Egg?

Looks like the heaven's have smiled upon you once again.:shine:

Check out the 'Deflation? Let's talk grocery prices' thread.

Sale on feley menyon - $1 per oz.

Time to back up the Tahoe!:wink::yes:

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I just bought a whole feley for $4.69lb. Can't beat that price.

Bought a whole rib I too.

:bear_tongue:

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QWAK,Max,I thought I had described "the RIVER of FIRE" LOL

When I started the addition to the original cabbin the SINK,TUB and CAMMODE were OUT SIDE -- I built the walls and roof around and over them!:yes::confused_ma:

I had a BAD dranage problem with the DIRT FLOOR so with GOD/NATURE and GRAVITY --- and LOTS and LOTS of water from the well :wink: over the years removed ALL the dirt and loose rock down to BED ROCK!:yes:

Puerly by CHANCE :questionm in the bedrock it self there is a DEEP cravase about 18" wide and about 4' deep that runs across the "FLOOR" from a stone wall I built -- over yo the BATH TUB now built in to a STONE WALL -- it makes a dog leg in front of the tub and under the back of the tub in to a NATURAL almost SQUARE SUMP -- it even has a STEP I can stand on IN the sump when servicing the sump pump.

The SUMP PUMP can either pump the water out side and down in front of the cabin OR by closing a VALVE flow threw a flexable pipe back over to that WALL and down the surface as a WATER FALL! :)

I riged the water fall and the cravass with RED and ORNGE and PURPLE rope lights that shine up threw the water!:yes: :hahaha: THAT is my "RIVER of FIRE" :111::4_1_72: LOOKS AWSOME at NIGHT and with the light I don't step in the CRAVASS and break my LEG! I got a big slab of rock I got to move to replace the 2 2"x10" planks I now use as a bridge.:yes: I also got a "SMOKE MACHEAN" like people use at halloween parties!

I have a RAMP out of a glass sliding door of the cabin, IN TO the GREEN HOUSE BATH and the end of that ramp is on a STONE ISLAND wnen the water level is high enough. I have lights out lining the stone ISLAND -- I call it "FIRE ISLAND" :hahaha::111::4_1_72:

I need to remove some STONE from the bottom of the wall so that even with out the pump, the water will NOT get high enough to be a problem.

ALL just natural PLUMBING -- I got SPRINGS that let water IN and a RESTRICTION that don't let it back out -- MY OOPS -- nature is ALWAYS right and arguing with HER is a LOSER eventualy!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

I tend to be slightly "UNCONVENTIONAL" in the way I see and DO things :yes::4_1_72::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

The realy CRAZY part is MY ways actualy WORK (often takes modification and adjustments:wink:)

the DUCK

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Indeed not, beat $4.69 lb! Wow! I wonder how much it is up here? Must look about. I hope this spree of feley sales has spread North of the border:565:. I could do with stocking up on some pet food for use when the power fails.:111:

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QWAK,MAX, I only had two of them "feley menyon" steaks :111::4_1_72: Was saving them for a SPECIAL :wink: evening that never happened.:111:They got WARM had to EAT them!!:yes:

Still got about 40 --6oz. SERLOINS and I gave away 10 or 12 and about 30 STEAK burgers! Good thing I got them on SALE! LOL :yes::4_1_72:

Mostly we eat burgers and cold fried chicken -- ICE STORMS are exceptions!:yes:

the DUCK

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Maxine thanks for asking

...well......we took a direct F1 tornado hit here last nite within a 1/8th mile away.....bounced around and didnt do much damage or hit me directly....no fatalities...my city house has a "safe room in the basement" so there it was "no worries"...been through a lot worse

so all is good here..

:36_1_34:

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I get my feleys and other meats for the freezer from Asda, which is the UK subsidiary of Wallymart.

I try to go in about 3:30pm when they often mark down short-dated stock to half-price. :yes:

There's only a short time window because others have the same idea and they don't mark down at the same time every day. :s15:

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QWAK,FYI, Walmart corperate head quorters is located in Bentonville Arkansas and they too were with out power in that aeria and yesterday anounced over 700 lay offs at corperate headquarters -- NOT people who work in the stores but the people who do the buying and organising etc.

They got there power on friday and tuesday were called in for an emergency meeting and given a PINK SLIP and escorted OUT of the building!:36_1_63::thumb.aspx::censored::s10:

the DUCK

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QWAK,What a HOOT!! :hahaha::111::4_1_72::111::4_1_72::shine:

Just went down to my MAIL BOX and inside I found NO MAIL :452: What I found was a single sheet of coppy paper from "FEMA":yes::111:

In BOLD TYPE across the TOP (long side)

"IF YOU RECIEVED an EMERGENCY MEAL,"Other than Military Meals-ready-to-Eat" (MRE),inspect the contents and DISCARD products containing peanuts or penut-related products.

Below that is a BLACK and WHITE picture of MREs and there packaging.

Under the picture in BOLD TYPE

"MILITARY MREs have been determined to be safe.

Below that

If you suspect that any food in an emergency meal, OTHER THAN MREs,contains peanuts or penut related products,please THROW IT AWAY (in very BIG LETTERS) :)

This REQUEST is part of a U.S.Food and Drug Administration national precautionary alert.

As is always the case,if you feel ill,consult a physician.

--------------------------------------------
They did NOT deliver any MREs or water to ME but they DID deliver THAT! :yes::hahaha::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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QWAK,Nothing says "I LOVE YOU" --- like giving some one there very own --- BODY BAG!:452::hahaha::thinkey::111:

http://store.colemans.com/cart/bmz_c...ge.225x178.gif

http://store.colemans.com/cart/us-gi...1b7169c7786c2c

They have a $19.00 one and a $29.00 one -- they look the same to ME! I wonder IF the cheeper one is USED??

Coleman's Monthly Mailing for February

Valentines Day Sale - 10% off orders of $50 or more when ordering online. Excludes items marked "Call to order". Limit one use per customer. Expires Feb 18, 2009

Use code: CUPID at checkout for discount.

Of corse you COULD buy lots of other stuff BUT I want one of them BIG body bags for the new 10 man Artic Tent!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

One should be PREPARED!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v::4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72:

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Well I sent you a minor prep sort of 'Nothing Day Present.':shine: You deserve one.:36_3_12:

And it sure as hell was not a body bag! I phoned for it in the States But I was :rant: that they would not expedite it, as you were still without power, and in a hard hit area, at the time.

Any news on that genny, Duck?

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QWAK,Just ordered TWO body bags! ($19.00 each) :yes::yippee::36_1_25: And 6 --50' hanks of braided parachut cord and got 10% off!:23_30_104:

I called and talked to them and -- YES! :yes: The cheeper ones ARE USED!!:yes::111::4_1_72:

I figure that the TENT won't MIND:452: and IF I got to shoot some body and MOVE that BODY -- they won't MIND eather!:452:

And ONCE I get DEAD -- I shore ant going to MIND and having a BODY BAG just in case :yes: could be concidered BEING "CONCIDERATE of OTHERS" and not leaving a MESS for them to clean up!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

I SAVED over $26.00 -- SO I got my OWN FREE BODY BAG !:yes::23_30_104: WHAT a GREAT DEAL!:yes::111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

Also got a BAG for the tent and 300' of strong lines to tie it down for STORMS! DELIVERED for under $75.00!:hahaha::23_30_104::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Glad you are OK. It sounded really ugly in Oklaholma the other night.

I was looking about for info on it all that night Duck was on watch, and fell across some chap's 'my space' page in Lone Grove. The place that got wiped out down there.

'I like to chase thunderstorms with my car and see if I ever get to watch a tornado touch down.'

Hmmm? 'Dear Santa . . . ' A case of being careful what you pray for, if ever I heard one. I wonder if this guy has been tied to a lamp post and is being stoned by the locals right now? 'FAIL!', as TA would put it.:452:

I really pray that guy and his wife and two kids and pets (though he was a bit down on the cat - hiss!) as described on his site did not get what he prayed for, a real close up look. As that tornado going about Oklaholma in the dark the other night sounded really big and BAD.

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QWAK,Max,Not a word yet I will call them agen friday.:call2:

I have recharged the 3 big 12 volt batteries but not ordered the inverters I want a big one for the house (full sign wave for the electronics) and an 800 watt for the Tahoe. I will order them in a couple mo. I got to PAY OFF the generator that is not working FIRST! LOL:yes: :111::4_1_72::shine:

Called on all the emergency floresent lights -- got to find the paper work but they will credit my CC when I ship them back. I feel bad about giving one away and it likely won't work for the guy I gave it to brand new in the box never opened!:censored::rant:

It is a ALICE in WONDER LAND world in which we find our selves -- BEST just to LAUGH at it and do YOUR OWN THING -- because THEY are the CRAZY ONES -- NOT US!:452::23_1_22::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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Well, Duck Egg, I guess it will be truly reassuring for Keef, in his proposal to go and stay with you, now that you are stocking up on USED body bags.

:shine:?

:biggrin:

No, you have never described your 'water feature' to me before. Maybe I should put some fairy lights up next to the positive tap of leak that runs through my foundation walls in my cellar? And get a smoke machine too?

'Swan Lake' next time I have a foot of water in the cellar?

I could do ballet in my wellies down there between the floating fire wood and snow chains.

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QWAK,Max,Some times you JUST got to use a PUMP --- not every body designs things LIKE I DO!:452::thinkey:

The level was OK but then I removed about 24" of soil and loose rock so the dranage situation needs ADJUSTING -- NO big DEAL I got a 3 lb. hammer and a great big CHIZZLE and will REMOVE the rock that is the OBSTRUCTION to natural FLOW!:yes:

Just another project on an endless list!:wink:

the DUCK

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QWAK,max,you just gave me a GREAT idea for a GAG!:thinkey::shine:

"Well, Duck Egg, I guess it will be truly reassuring for Keef, in his proposal to go and stay with you, now that you are stocking up on USED body bags."

Along with all the colored ROPE LIGHTS in the "RIVER of FIRE" and the WATER FALL -- I have a 200 watt BLACK LIGHT :wink: with that and the STAGE smoke machean going ----- IF I get in that BODY BAG with some GLOW in the DARK/BLACK LIGHT paint on --- IT could be a LOT of FUN!:yes::36_1_25::111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :devil_smile::evil::15_1_70v:

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'Hell's Bells!':yes:

I will just call you! I think I am too drunk to type!:15_1_70v:

Hey I was going to put up for you a pic of a 'Forward Control'.Cool! Make good campers.:4_8_4v:

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I haven't been able to grasp why you want a tent and two used body bags. :confused_ma:

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QWAK,argentos,I bought the ten man artic tent as posable STORAGE or HOUSING should I have to take people in (a tradition in my family:wink:) I know a fiew people who can or likely will become homless.

The tent came in a card board box that is not suitable storage and it is hard to move the 150 lb. tent that way --- in a BODY BAG with carry straps it should be easy to move and ZIPS closed to keep the tent clean and criters OUT!:yes::thinkey:

The OTHER "BODY BAG" is to be CREATIVE WITH and perhaps have a little FUN!:yes::confused_m::shine:

I got the LOCALS BUFFALOWED :shine: After they killed 3 of my pets I let it be KNOWN that I was a CRAZY PTSD NAM VET (which I sort of am:wink:) I did a lot of SHOOTING --- TRIMING the TREES:yes: with a 12 gage shot gun and OO buck!:yes: an asortment of things so they would THINK a lot HARDER befor KILLING my pets in the future!:yes:

For $20.00 I can buy a lot of INSURANCE that NONE of the ones who may have in the passed robed this place (it was befor I got all my stuff moved in)or do harm to my pets or property because -- I GOT a BODY BAG to put them IN! :yes::thinkey::111::4_1_72::36_1_30::shine:

In NAM I was known as "WARLOCK" and messed with peoples HEADS -- especialy officers who had no respect and were due NONE!:15_1_70v:

I found I could use a SIMILAR ploy with the HOSTILE LOCALS here:yes::111::4_1_72: IF they thought I realy WAS crazy enough -- THEN it was probably BEST not to give ME reason to DO what THEY thought I just might DO!:yes::36_1_30::36_1_25::111::4_1_72::shine:

Just knowing I got a "BODY BAG" and them WONDERING :hahaha::thinkey: "Why dose HE have a BODY BAG?" -- gives me a bit of an ADVANTAGE:yes:

The locals have a comunication network which OUT SIDERS are not a part of and BY using there FEARS and IMAGINATIONS, I have not had any problems from the hostile locals for about 15 years!:yippee::ARMS1::36_1_25::4_1_72::shine:

For 20 bucks IT could be a lot of FUN!:yes::111::4_1_72:

the DUCK

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All is clear now. That is one hell of a tent to put up in a wind and the idea of it wet doesn't bear thinking about. :bear_cry:

Are ANY of the natives friendly? I hope so because it's really wearing to be all the time amongst people when there's no-one you trust or even get on with.

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QWAK,argentos,Some of the locals are friendly but generly there are 3 families that go back to pre civilwar days and they are heavely INBREAD and concider out siders as FAIR GAME and there is OPEN SEASON on YANKIES year round :yes::111:

Bought the place 28 years ago and been living on the property over 20 years and I am still an out sider.:yes:


I stoped expecting reciprication long ago :yes: I help when I can because that is the way I am, but expect NOTHING and just hope that they don't decide that there should be a BOUNTY on DUCKS!:yes::15_1_70v::452::36_1_25:


Just part of the ADVENTURE I supose.:dontknow: Most people don't know how to relate to me so I don't expect more from inbread locals -- but my ears do perk up if I hear BANJO music!:wink::yes::111::4_1_72::shine:


I figure it will take 3 or 4 people to set up the tent, BUT IF it needs seting up, they will likely be here to do it.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=500289

the DUCK

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QWAK,Just called and my replacment generator shiped out today! :yippee: Should be here wed or thursday -- monday is a holiday!:yes:

Got to unpack and asemble the new one then UNASEMBEL old one and ship it back.

Unlikely that spring storms will cause much problem this year -- IF it was going to fall and be a problem IT pritty much ALREADY HAPPENED!:hahaha::thinkey::yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Pleased to hear the good news, Duck.:yes:They sure took their time though.

What is the holiday on Monday? Is it just in the US or is it one here too?

Sorry I did not call you last night,:signs14: but you did not miss much, as I was monumentally pissed.:coolbeer:

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QWAK,Max,I think it is PRESIDENTS DAY!:hahaha::thinkey::dontknow: I only recognise "NOTHING DAYS" as HOLIDAYS!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

Around HERE -- every day is potentionaly a "NOTHING DAY" -- depends how I'm feeling!:yes: Nothing days for me are sort of NORMAL DAYS -- it is some ware ELSE that they are DIFERENT!:hahaha::thinkey::111::23_30_104: When the BOX arives!:yes::wink:

I am trying to decide IF I should send some one a "BODY BAG" "NOTHING DAY" gift :thinkey::dontknow: They could POSABLY take it the WRONG WAY?:questionm:questionm :111::4_1_72::shine:

Could even POP for the MORE EXPENCIVE "NEW BODY BAG" -- not even used ONCE!

http://store.colemans.com/cart/us-gi...1b7169c7786c2c

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Duck,

I would strongly advise you NOT to start sending body bags, either new or used, out as 'Nothing Day Gifts'.:4_1_72:

I most definitely think that could be taken the wrong way.:36_1_25::yes:

Mind you? Do you know any 'Goths'? They might like one, but I think they prefer coffins to body bags.

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QWAK,Max, I guess You could be right.:wink::thinkey::yes:

Just the same there is that old BOSS --- :wink: who never got a "NOTHING DAY" :yes::evil::goodnight

HE HE HE :111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

the DUCK

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How you feeling Duck Egg? Has your cold developed?:23_1_22:

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QWAK,Max,feeling OK, just a little SLUGISH.:wink: Hope you are feeling a little more PERKEY?:questionm

Most likely the next EMERGENCY will be KITTENS!:yes::111::favorites21:

Just cleaned the diatom filter for the DUCK POND and recharged it and got the pond heating! :23_30_104:

Made jumpers for the 3 deep cell batteries -- All charged to 12.87volts! :s1:

Also filled and fired up my NEW oil lamp!:yes::23_30_104::36_3_13::36_3_12:


(I think the guys look a little GAY -- but I like the SONG he he he) ROTFL :)


Got to run to town for some milk and other things and by the time I return I sould be all set for some PONDERING! :yes: :23_1_22:

The FROGS say it is SPRING TIME -- they are making lots of NOISE -- they are SELDOM wrong:wink:

One can learn a lot from FROGS -- if you LISTEN closely -- they tell you things --- there NOT just CROKING!:452::111::4_1_72::shine:

We may see some cool nights in the 20s and 30s but every day we should start geting WARMER!:s9::15_1_70v:

I'm about ready for WINTER to be OVER!!!:yes::111::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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[QUOTE=GOLD DUCK;1570327]QWAK,Max,feeling OK, just a little SLUGISH.:wink: Hope you are feelink a little more PERKEY?:questionm

Most likely the next EMERGENCY will be KITTENS!:yes::111::favorites21:

Just cleaned the diatom filter for the DUCK POND and recharged it and got the pond heating! :23_30_104:

Made jumpers for the 3 deep cell batteries -- All charged to 12.87volts! :s1:

Also filled and fired up my NEW oil lamp!:yes::23_30_104::36_3_13::36_3_12:

Got to run to town for some milk and other things and by the time I return I sould be all set for some PONDERING! :yes: :23_1_22:

The FROGS say it is SPRING TIME -- they are making lots of NOISE -- they are SELDOM wrong:wink:

We may see some cool nights in the 20s and 30s but every day we should start geting WARMER!:s9::15_1_70v:


Well kittens sound like my sort of 'emergency', Duck . . . Having recently been accused of being a 'PETAphile' on another thread.:111:

I hope she keeps to her previous 2-3 litter size though. 5 is rather intense. Paula and Bruno's litter were 5, actually six, but one died. Things were pretty crazy for a while. You should worm her, I meant to send you something for that, as I have a load of vet preps, but keep forgetting. Though I do not know the rules on worming pregnant queens. Can easily find out though.

Check this out for colds, human (or Duck/Goose) colds, that is, it works very well for me:

http://www.cold-fx.com

I am not sure if it is only available in Canada or not, but it is a Canadian company.

I am still pretty sluggish, myself, Duck. But am seeing the naturopath again in 2 weeks, so we will see.

Frogs are still frozen into their ice blocks up here.:biggrin:

Glad you like the lamp, and glad the immediate need is over, as with your genny, they sure did not know the word 'RUSH'! Did you get a brush with it to clean the chimney?

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QWAK,max,Yes the brush was in the box -- all the BELLS and WISSELS too! Thank you!:36_3_13:

I was just wondering :questionm If oil lamps will run on kerosean then in a pinch could you run them on DEZEL? Would it smoke or stink?:dontknow:

I do know better than to turn up the WICK befor the chiminy gets HOT in the FUTURE!:yes::111:

Every day is an ADVENTURE and an OPERTUNITY to LEARN!:thinkey::yes::shine:

the DUCK

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I do not know Duck re the Diesel!!!

The first one I had, an antique one, a really big one, with a double wick, I ran on Kerosene and it made the house stink like the ramp of Heathrow. I dislike Kerosene heaters for exactly the same reason. The refreshing scent of 'JET A', or something thereabouts.

Ever since I have ONLY used purpose made lamp oil - clear - not coloured for choice. My lamps never stink on that. Any time I see it on sale I buy bottles and bottles. I would actually really like to know, from some expert on here, how long lamp oil keeps, and under what conditions, as I have bottles all over the place. Indoors, out in the shed.

I think you would be better off with cooking oil than Diesel.

I have heard they can run on paint thinner too, recently heard that, and I have yet to test it. But I would imagine that would stink too.

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QWAk,an up date on the DAMAGE. :wink:


HE HE HE :111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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We always had paraffin (kerosine) lamps for power cuts when I was a child. Provided the wick is trimmed regularly and kept short so the flame is not allowed to smoke, they don't stink much.

Better than our great-great-grandparents' time when loadsa peeps used whale oil. :yes:

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Yep, diesel will work fine though it is a little more sooty - if you have a mantle lamp then turn it up a bit now and again to clean the mantle. If not, just crack a window open! I run my cars, my lamps, my boiler all on diesel..

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QWAK,Jimfrancisco,GOOD to KNOW! :yes: and a lot better than siting in the DARK!:shine::wink:

the DUCK

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QWAK,This web page just seems aproprite for this thread. It may have been posted else ware?:dontknow:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/587952

I know Avalon will like the LINK to the winter survival class!:yes:

the DUCK

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This video is totally off-topic, is not about survival, but it might cheer peeps up while we're waiting for springtime:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7889698.stm

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QWAK,argentos,A good clip!:yes: Not the first clip I have seen of a dog climbing a tree and I find it interisting at the moment as I am watching a program deling with the EVOLUTION of Whales and Bears both of which started out as a WOLF like creature.:yes:

The first BEAR was not much biger than that dog and lived mostly in the trees so the biger carnavores would not EAT it!:yes: IT evolved in to a bear that could and posably did EAT GRIZLEY size smaller bears for breakfast! IT died off, agen because conditions changed and IT could not ADAPT and the smaller bears COULD and they are the ancestors of the modern bears we see today.:thinkey:

It is the ability to ADAPT and some "unusual ABILITIES" CAN become the diference between SURVIVING and NOT!:thinkey:

RIGID thinking that shuts out alternitive posabilities is a KILLER in lots of ways!:yes::thinkey::shine:

Seeing things in diferent ways and from diferent perspectives = OPTIONS that one does NOT have with a CLOSED MIND -- so NO solutions seem POSABLE!:452::36_1_30:

There are INFINATE posabilities but ONLY when we decide to CHANGE our MINDS and NOT lock our selves in to what is CONVENTIONAL and the accepted NORM!:shine:

Sort of like my "BODY BAG" -- to "TENT bag" adaptation :yes::111: HE HE HE :shine: ALL that realy matters is "does IT work or NOT":questionm and IF it does and IS better:questionm then it is a GOOD idea.:thinkey:

The ability to ADAPT and reconfigure what we have in to WHAT we NEED will be a deciding factor in WHO manages to SURVIVE in an EMERGENCY of any kind and we live in CHANGING times ware emergencies are becoming NORMAL!:shine:


the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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If I were younger and healthier I could adapt in whatever way is needed if or when TSHTF, but I am resigned to the idea that I shall not be a survivor. No problem there.

What annoys me is that my children do not understand (or maybe want to understand) what is coming, although it is halfway here already. :bear_rolleyes:

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That must be just frightful, Argentos.

I used to feel I was pretty up for this sort of lark, like the Duck is, UNTIL I went Hypothyroid. Now constantly exhausted and dependent on meds, which are still not right for me.

Have had rabies about my best friend and her kid on here, and deleted a post today. But who the foxtrot, was I most likely to want to help? Not having kids of my own, or an extended family. Her and her sprog.

She is 'eyes in the headlights' though.' It is NOT going to happen, it can't, it can't! My son is too young!' Like THAT is the only factor on God's earth.

I feel sad to have a 'crash stead' such as it is, no Tn Andy job, but it is better than many set ups, and no takers. I love the Duck's ideas, but when you are not well yourself,and know it, it is hard.

Not a good time to have old friends pull the 'ostrich'. Though I have great friends long distance, did anyway, before my net days, just by working all over the place, and made more, on GIM. I feel the long distance factor.:yes:

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QWAK,Update on STORM RECOVERY

Both fayetteville and Springdale came out today an anounced that OUT OF STATE CONTRACTORS will get the job of cleaning up all the down trees and tree limbs dispite 35 LOCAL bids for the jobs!:36_1_25:

They were notified by FEAMA that IF the work was not done to FEMA specifications :452::36_1_30:ther would be NO 75% reembursment for the expences!

FEMA suplied a list of companies THEY found ACCEPTABLE!:yes::rant:

SOUNDS like a RIGED GAME to ME -- a lot of locals NEEDED the jobs and FEMA will not agree to pay them! STINKS like a POLE CAT!!:yes::signs14::shine:

On a briter note :questionm:wink: I got an E MAIL that my "BODY BAGS" will arive here FRIDAY!:hahaha::yes::111::cry1::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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You misunderstand. I'm just unfit really. Nowhere near as sick as you with your thyroid.

But once you are past retirement age and are not 100% you are not going to be a survivor if food, safe water, medical care, medicine, etc are in short supply and you have to fight to defend what you have.

That's just a fact and not really anything to worry too much about! I might step in front of a bus tomorrow. :biggrin:



{{{{{Maxine}}}}}

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Bad, bad Duck! http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1234831428 http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1234831428 http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1234831428 http://goldismoney.info/forums/attac...1&d=1234831428 :s1:

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Sorry to hear your incipient cold came on, Duck Egg. Stress, exhaustion.

Hope you feel better, I typed 'batter', at first, no that is not what we want, any 'Crispy Ducks'!

Very tired goose, talk to you tomorrow. Hope you got your new genny in the post too, due isn't it?

Flap.:shine:

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QWAK,Max,I very rarely catch a cold partly because I don't usualy go out in the comunity much in winter (ever realy :wink:) and because of the HEATED DUCK POND --- by geting my CORE temp HIGH almost daily it KILLS most viruses:yes:

They have a very narrow and limited temp window they can survive in :yes:That is how the body fights off viruses and with the 105+ DUCK POND I stay in as long as I can to raise my core temp.:yes:

I could not do my PONDERING for 14 days and picked up a RINO VIRUS out there doing MY thing!:yes::shine:

Perhaps a good thing to remember should "AVIEN FLU" some how get loose -- it aint good for DUCKS or GOOSES!:36_1_30::111::cry1::36_1_25::shine:

Not FUN any way.:452:

Wile PONDERING I just IMAGIN all them little VIRUSES imploding and DIEING -- they don't feel nothing :452: -- so I don't mind KILLING THEM!:111::4_1_72::shine:

the DUCK

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A clove of garlic a day will kill viruses and bacteria also, so have some around.

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QWAK,UP DATE!:15_1_70v:

The replacment generator arived yesterday late after noon!:23_30_104:

I was billed for a NEW ONE including SHIPING -- we gona have to TALK about THAT!:wink::yes::36_1_30:

I expect they will cover shiping and apon return, will credit my account -- no big deal realy.:452:

Today my "BODY BAGS" arive!:yes::23_30_104:

What I realy NEED to FIND is a "REAL" MONKS hooded ROBE in BLACK or dark gray.:yes: Not some costume shop thing :452:SOMTHING I can ACTUALY WARE!:yes::shine:

I found a REAL COOL "WALKING STICK" to go with the OUT FIT!:yes:

Real CHEEP -- same place -- should have ORDERED IT with this order:yes:

http://store.colemans.com/cart/reape...he-p-1555.html

It must have "SLIPED my MIND":yes: most likely caused by the SNEEZING and WATERY EYES!:wink::4_1_72:

I kind of FIGURE that as the SHTF -- only the ones with out FEAR will come to ME -- and THEY are the ones I WANT TO COME!:shine:


THEY will see past the PROJECTED ILUSION and THEY will SEE and KNOW ME!:yes::shine:

I guess I could get SHOT at TOO?:dontknow::questionm:questionm Been THERE be for -- they always MISS!:yes::shine:

Don't matter ANY WAY:452: THERE LOSE!:yes:

I won't BE THERE :452: and to THEM it will be as IF -- I NEVER WAS!:452:

I AM -- the ALPHA-OMEGA -- WE ALL ARE!:yes:

There is NO END -- things just CHANGE!:yes::shine:

I KNOW --- some may think me CRAZY--- CRAZY as HELL -- I TOTALY AGREE -- HELL is a TOTALY CRAZY IDEA -- at least IT is to ME! :)


the DUCK :4_1_72::15_1_70v:

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Always good to keep the vampires away when the tenebrae are falling.

I'll get my coat.

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They only need to get lucky ONCE. :wub:

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QWAK,argentos,They say "a coward DIES a tHOUSAND TIMES'" -- I am inclined to believe "WE ALL DO" :yes: --- we just don't REMEMBER :452:--and the ones with COURAGE know better than to CARE or FOCUS on IT:36_1_30: -- because it has to happen some way -- ANY WAY!:yes::shine:

I have done it several times THIS time around :yes: THEY keep THROWING ME BACK!:yes::4_1_72::shine:

CPR HURTS :yes:It tends to -- CRACK RIBS!:yes::shine:

the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Only the good die young. :banana::elefant:

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Hey Duck, it's good to know you got your new gennie!

Are you going to give it a test run?

:shine:

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QWAK,immanti,:s1:Already set up and ran it for 2 hours!:emotions16: The engen is ready for it's second oil and filter change -- we never finished the full break in time! Ran it 8 hr. as a brush mower and it was AWSOME,ran 14 hr. hooked to generator when pulley failed.:36_1_28:

Failed generator is BOXED up and tied with a BOW -- ready to go back to the factory -- tuesday UPS should pick up!

I will pick up some oil and filters then run it UNDER LOAD for 24 hr. and If no problems I will trust IT.

Still going to get a new inverter or two and likely a small HONDA generator as a BACK up for the BACK UP GENERATOR!:111::cry1::shine:

the DUCK

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Flap, Duck Egg,

Glad to hear you get the replacement genny.:yes:

Book for you:



If you lived nearer to me you could even borrow my Jeep to go with your proposed costume. 'His' name in 'Binky'.:4_1_72:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(Discworld)

(Scroll down - Binky.)

I was pleased to learn on this link that 'Death' is a cat lover. Had not known that before.:biggrin:

I had not known about the 'My Little Binky' set either.:rofl: Though I did know some bad jokes about 'My Little Pony' abattoir sets. Maybe that is what that horrid new horse statue at Denver Airport is supposed to be? A 'My Little Binky'?

All this with backfire on the NWO, :36_1_30::shine::111:

Don't go to the Duck Nest for Halloween next year kiddies, it sounds as if he intends to be handing out body bags.

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:applause_

Good man... or good Duck? :bear_tongue:

It sounds like you won't be having the same problem again, Duck. And I think you've saved at least a few of us some surprises by sharing your experience.

:36_1_32v:

I for one went and tested what gear I have and found one or two minor malfunctions that might have been not so minor in certain situations, like the leak in my water filter (pump).

:bear_thumb:

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QWAK,Max,How about "BODY BAGS:questionm with MREs and GLOW sticks inside" Can be used as 1 person "TENT"shelter:thinkey: :yes::shine:

(should probably put a roll of TP in there too):thinkey:

I think it even has a "ZIPPER DOOR":dontknow: May ONLY work from the OUT SIDE so could need some ALTERATIONS?:questionm on the ZIPPER, but generly --- ONE SIZE fits ALL for the BAG!:yes::111::4_1_72::shine:

From the first link "This is the bright candlelit room where the life-timers are stored-shelf upon shelf of them, squat hourglasses, one for every living person, pouring their fine..."

From the DUCK -- "Hell of a place to have an EARTH QUAKE!"

the DUCK :4_1_72::shine::15_1_70v:

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Turn the whole bag inside out and the zip will be inside! :signs14:

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I like your signature Argentos.:biggrin:

I had six cans of soup I had found on sale on the kitchen table today, which I had stuck little labels on with date purchased.

My neighbour said 'What are you going to do with these?' I think he was actually asking in terms of recipe advice, he is an old bachelor.

Good bloody question, though . . . Real answer 'find somewhere to put them!':4_1_72: Why they are on the table in the first place! I am running out of viable spaces.

Someone said 'under the sofa' the other day on here, good on them. I had not thought of that one yet. So under the sofa they go!:shine:

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QWAK,Package arived 6 PM local time --- I opened it with great anticipation:yes::yes: BODY BAG IS AWSOME!!:yes::4_1_72:

Big enough for "YOU and a FRIEND":yes: if you dont have too much GEAR and don't mind CUDDELING -- IN a BODY BAG!:cry1::4_1_72::yes::shine:

The ZIPPER has a pull tab on BOTH in side and out side :hahaha:-- SOME one must have THOUGHT of THIS befor I DID! :thinkey::yes:

One llittle PROBLEM they only sent ONE NEW BODY BAG -- I ordered 2 USED BODY BAGS:yes: and they only sent ONE BRAND NEW ONE!:36_1_30:

Have to call them in the morning and ask -- "WARE is MY BODY BAG":questionm -- out of stock:questionm? had a RUN on BODY BAGS lately?:questionm

I told the UPS guy yesterday when he droped off the generator that I would see him agen TODAY as I was expecting a shipment of "BODY BAGS":yes:

He usualy arives between 2 pm and 4 pm and we talk a little ---- this time he sort of FLEW BY (I have a big horse shoe drive in and out, right passed the front door) and by the time I got to the door he was HALF way down the other drive way!:yes:

I guess :questionm:questionm He just did not want to talk today or was runing LATE.:dontknow:

Bag may be TOO big for the 10 man Artic tent:dontknow: -- may have to see IF they have "SMALL size BODY BAGS":questionm:dontknow:

LOL I am just having WAY too much FUN with THIS!:yes::yes::shine:

the DUCK :111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

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Hey Duck, maybe the body bags made him nervous...

:36_1_25:

:biggrin:

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You don't say?:4_1_72::shine:

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QWAK,immanti, You think:questionm:dontknow: Could be, I supose :dontknow:

A lot of people were CONVINCED I realy was a WARLOCK in Viet Nam:yes::wink:

I guess I just have that SORT of PERSONALITY and people kind of sence it?:questionm

the DUCK :36_1_25::111::4_1_72::15_1_70v:

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Well, Duck Egg,

I guess, with a double body bag, it could come in handy, if you get thrown in the chiller, but are not quite toast, and have a friend in the bag too. So long as he/she is likewise, not quite toast.

Inside outside zipper sounds very innovative too. Can aways pop out and say hello.:15_1_70v::36_1_25:

Chill out, wee Quaker, or you are going to scare even Keef off from staying with you!:36_1_30::yes: Come :fan:

EDIT: "Boil out'!

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I cannot take any credit for it. Someone posted it on that Obama site's 'List of Anti-Obama Websites' and it was too good not to steal.

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QWAK,Max,I'm just PLAYING:yes:-- most of the time I am laughing so hard I can hardly type!:4_1_72::4_1_72::4_1_72::shine:

Max,I got to PLAY--that is how I stay -- FOR EVER YOUNG!


the DUCK

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You, and your bad jokes!

'Twiglet of the Gods'. Very good!:wub:

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Flap Duck,

I have had a laugh looking up the links for 'Binky' for you.

All these years I have been spelling my Jeep's name wrong, though it was 'Binkie'.

I called 'him' Binky as I thought it was such an insane Jeep, when I got it, that it did not deserve to be given a serious name. It is white. I didn't plan to keep it, but after my Land Rover importation failures it stuck. Very fond of Binky now. He is a good Jeep.

I have sent for another copy of 'Mort' which I leant to someone and never got back, as happens. Write off as 'Nothing Day' present, and another Terry Pratchett novel about Death called 'Reaper Man'. I just have to find out how it is that Death is a cat lover.:111:

I was trying to find a good pic of Binky to link, but have failed. I saw a GREAT pic in a book of 'fantasy lit' art once. I loved it! But the book was too expensive to justify the one pic I wanted.

I came across a cross stitch project of Binky on the net though last night.:4_1_72:

My kind of sewing project, but those counted cross stitch things cross my eye. I only do very small ones, at a push, this one was BIG.

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Binkie? Binky? Who they, apart from a Jeep?

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QWAK,I just got out of the DUCK POND -- litterly steaming but feeling GOOD!:yes::4_1_72::shine:

I was pondering about my DUCK POND "POWER GENERATOR":shine: (day DREAM) --listening to that LINK about the "DANCING DUCK":yes::4_1_72:

http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/prince...ujah/13251957/

(It says can not conect but if you hit refresh it plays)

I realised that I had FEAD them -- handed out LIGHT --blankets and all sorts of survival things -- even BAGS and other containers to keep it IN!:4_1_72: NOT ALL to ANY ONE but SOME to EACH that I could.:s1:YET no body wants to COME set up the NEW TENT and eat BBQ SURLOINE STEAKS the best $$ can BUY (well a lot better than LOCAL)

I just don't have ENOUGH SPARK-- to get the FIRE GOING!:452::111::4_1_72::shine:

Well at LEAST there are NO CROSSES around -- except the one I built my self from 4x8 timbers and mounted my GARDEN HOSE rack on (a car wheel rim) and IT roted off at the bottom and fell over MANY years ago. Don't realy need a flower garden if no one sees it but ME. Besides the SQURRELS eat theTULIP bulbs and the DEER got the STRAW BERRIES! :111::4_1_72::shine: and they apreciated them -- kept coming back till they were ALL GONE! :yes::shine::4_1_72:

It is a CRAZY world out there -- I SHOULD fit right in :confused_ma:-- OH WELL :dontknow:

ORDERED my "GRIM REAPER CICLE" yesterday :yes: :4_1_72:

Have some HELP with the MONK ROBE :wink::111:

I am concidering one of thoes streched white fright masks but think IT could be over the TOP :questionm:dontknow: and I ware GLASSES:yes::4_1_72:

Perhaps just some CAMO make up from MY GI JOE stuff?:questionm :dontknow:

If this is an ALACE in WONDERLAND reality :questionm then --- MOVE OVER ALACE! Theres a NEW DUCK in TOWN :yes: and a WHOLE NEW STORY --- all the SAME charactors -- but DIFERINT!

Wait till the QUEEN of HEARTS sees her "BODY BAG" -- I am shure it will be a PRICLESS moment:wink: and charged on a CREDIT CARD TOO!:hahaha::36_3_13::cry1:

WHO says WE can't REWRIGHT the STORIES or PERCIEVE things DIFERENTLY?:questionm:questionm:shine:


the DUCK :15_1_70v:

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Binky is 'Death's' white horse in the Terry Pratchett 'Discworld' novels. Particularly featured in 'Mort' and 'Reaper Man', 'Death' and Binky. You being in the UK, I would have thought you would have known that!

'Twiglet of the Gods' would fit right in with those novels. If you haven't read them you would no doubt get a laugh.

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QWAk,Max,I have a SILVER TAHOE -- no HORSE :452: but have been known to say "HI HO --SILVER -- AWAY!":yes:

In just the RIGHT light and if one has a flexable mind and SQUINTS a little:wink: I supose one COULD :dontknow: percieve MY TAHOE as "MY binky" -- especialy IF I am waring a MONKS ROBE and carrying my NEW "SYTHE" which should be delivered monday!:yes::111::4_1_72:

http://store.colemans.com/cart/reape...he-p-1555.html

AND the missing "BODY BAG" too!:yes::4_1_72::shine:

BTW: I ordered all the things at the bottom too,the surgons scrub brushes are GREAT -- over the years I had 6 or 8 I scrounged when I worked in hospitals and they last for ever but old girl friends etc. talked me out of them. Also suture nedles and tape and tarp bags. Shiping costs a lot for the heavy stuff but worth IT!

the DUCK :4_1_72::15_1_70v:

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Flap Duck,

Re Alice:

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Hi Duck Egg,

Yes my Binky might consider your own 'pale horse', 'Silver', to be a near relative, if seen in the right light.:wink:

We had better keep them apart, imagine the result if they were to breed? A cross between a Tahoe and a Jeep? Almost as horrific as a cross between a Duck and a Goose.

Well do post a photo of this 'Reaper Man' cossy of yours once you get it in the mail.:cry1:

That should keep the neighbours off your pets!:shine: